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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2015, 01:11:08 am »
You need to consider that swapping the buckets will add a certain level of complexity and confusion to the procedure. I personally was more comfortable only working with the shim measurement variable. IIRC, I was dealing with one shim and one valve at a time to maintain some level of control. So I never had more than one bucket and shim out at a time.

Good tip though, and I think next time I will at least measure and record each bucket thickness just in case I ever change my mind on that or get in a pinch finding the proper shim.

I pulled them out, one at a time, and measured and replaced them... just like that....
then sat down with my chart, and worked out what had to change and by how much. it isn't rocket science, just addition and subtaction....

don't remove them all, and try to segregate them, and figure it out. simply measure one by one, what lives where..


people make this soooooo complex. :-[ :-[ :-X


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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2015, 04:10:23 pm »
Nice write up 4Bikes. I found the same issues as you. Took me a month to do including 2 weeks waiting for shims which no dealer had in stock. Makes me feel like they pencil whip the checks. Ditto on the cam shaft alignment, first time I was off one tooth because as you say they change when you tighten down the camshaft caps. One other thing, make damn sure you temporarily plug the oil return holes in the top of the head! Won't tell you how I know that but I got lucky! The whole thing like you said is use the manual, the videos, everything online & just take your time...

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2015, 05:25:46 pm »
I knew there was a reason I still have my old C10, here's my valve setting worksheet:

In .005 - .007
Out .007 - .009

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2015, 07:23:36 pm »
Tagging this for future reference.
Gonna have to adjust mine sooner or later...

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2015, 07:49:25 pm »
Tagging this for future reference.
Gonna have to adjust mine sooner or later...

Ride safe, Ted

I'm tagging it too.  I have my second check coming up soon, so I will be reviewing my notes.  My big change next time will be completely removing the radiator and cleaning it as part of the job.  Also, I'll be measuring and recording the bucket clearances.  Of course I'm hoping that they are all in spec (checked like a dealer ::) ) and the cams won't need to come out. 
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2015, 11:08:56 pm »
Okay, help a dummy please. How do you tag a thread.
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2015, 11:14:01 pm »
Copy and save the thread's URL would be one way. Perhaps with your maint records. Don't look for a tag button because it doesn't exist.
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2015, 11:23:57 pm »
Or you can just bookmark it as a favorite and save it like a website. ;)
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2015, 11:25:10 pm »
Tagging this for future reference.
Gonna have to adjust mine sooner or later...

Ride safe, Ted

I'm tagging it too.  I have my second check coming up soon, so I will be reviewing my notes.  My big change next time will be completely removing the radiator and cleaning it as part of the job.  Also, I'll be measuring and recording the bucket clearances.  Of course I'm hoping that they are all in spec (checked like a dealer ::) ) and the cams won't need to come out.
,the dimension you want to record is the thickness betwween wear face of the top o bucket, and the center raised portion contacting the shim, you will need reliable micrometer for this, but its like $30 from McMaster Carr... don't need digital, wasted bucks, simple normal mic, cheapest one they have. it reads to 4 places, if you understand how to read a mic.
swapping is super usefull, and most people don't understand how it works, but if you sit down, SOBER, and look at the readings on shim thikness, clearance, and bucket head dims...
it should all come clear where youcan swap.


or not.

just fer giggles,mand using the described methods, with data about wht shim number is where, clearance found, and bhcket head thickness... measured ACCURATLY... illnsend you a swap map, and where goes where... for a very minimal price.

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2015, 11:26:54 pm »
Okay, help a dummy please. How do you tag a thread.

you can contact me directly... so I can have you be the Fla expert.... :great:

not on taggin,
just on adjusting.....

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2015, 11:00:38 am »
4Bikes, thanks for all of the insight. I'm closing in on 20K and like many others have made the decision to extend the mileage to 25K before diving in. I wish you or SISF were close by.
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2015, 09:54:17 pm »
Okay, help a dummy please. How do you tag a thread.

you can contact me directly... so I can have you be the Fla expert.... :great:

not on taggin,
just on adjusting.....

I tried this approach and didn't get a response. Even on the second attempt, you replied and said you were busy and would get back to me. 
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2015, 10:16:49 pm »
Okay, help a dummy please. How do you tag a thread.

you can contact me directly... so I can have you be the Fla expert.... :great:

not on taggin,
just on adjusting.....

I tried this approach and didn't get a response. Even on the second attempt, you replied and said you were busy and would get back to me.

ooops.... sorry, my bad, lemme go back and search emails and see what you sent. :-\

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2015, 12:18:28 pm »
Appreciate all of you that had input on this, very useful and educational.  I'm not there yet on mine so I like to school up as much as I can before that time gets here.

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2015, 07:48:47 pm »
im going to get a new bike at 25k and let Kawasaki worry about it.   

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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2015, 10:28:53 pm »
I'm planning to do my valves over Winter.  Are these the kind of shims needed?


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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2015, 10:46:54 pm »
The knock on the hot cams are that the half sizes are missing that are available with the Kawasaki and Honda shims. This means that in some cases you cannot get precise enough to put the clearances at the center or loose end of the specs. The other knock against a complete shim kit is that you may not have the quantity of shims that you need. Most I believe, prefer to swap shims with a dealer, or buy them individually from a source such as Ron Ayres. I had luck with swapping shims with a dealer, but I recommend measuring them as they hand them to you.
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2015, 10:34:20 pm »
I purchased mine from a dealer measuring each one with my own calipers to make sure they were spot on
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Re: Valve Adjustment Tips for a First Timer
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2016, 01:21:57 am »
Okay, help a dummy please. How do you tag a thread.



you can contact me directly... so I can have you be the Fla expert.... :great:

not on taggin,
just on adjusting.....

I wouldn't say I'm an expert. I just wasn't scared to tackle this project. I took my time and thought things out. I would have no problem doing another valve shim adjustment again.
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