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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #200 on: May 28, 2018, 02:31:18 pm »
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #201 on: May 28, 2018, 02:31:53 pm »
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #202 on: May 28, 2018, 04:44:18 pm »
Thanks for posting those Ron.

How to build or install something on a Connie I can {eventually} figure out.
How to post photo's here,,, no way..
I are computer illiterate and proud of it.

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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #203 on: June 05, 2018, 05:29:23 pm »
Had a setback on my Muzzy install.  :truce:
Grandson and I took the bike out for a good test and we drug {dragged?} the mid-pipes on both sides.
   And we didn't even get into some real twisties!!          >:(

NOTE: I had extended the mid-pipes out about 3' to improve how the Muzzy's fit my headers.
          My bike is lowered. {But I never drug the Area P system I had on the bike previously}. (this included some track days)

Soooo, Last night, I removed the 3" extension's and moved the front of the mid- pipes in..
Will give it another  try soon.       Probably at the National in Kerrville....  :great:

If this doesn't work, I'm considering raising the bike, or another set of mufflers.  :-[

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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #204 on: June 18, 2018, 06:38:09 pm »
Post National Report;
    Slightly drug the {bottom/left} mid pipe again. {My  (1 1/2") lowered bike is just too low}
    Some burble, surging when riding at "very" low throttle openings}.
      {Any throttle opening above the initial crack, runs like a scalded dog!!}
    To my ear, these puppies are too loud. {others liked the sound}
    Suspension preload is set as hard as possible to give me ground clearance. {Rough when riding}

Da Plan:
 The Muzzy mid pipes/mufflers will be coming off.
    {for now} Plan is to replace the right side Muzzy with an Area P Slip On and plug the left side.
      {later}   Trying to find a used Area P to install on the left side.
                        Area P has smaller OD mid pipe and inside of Muffler is smaller.
                          {Might help ground clearance issues, and maybe the burble, surging?}
                    Raise the bike about 3/4", and soften the preload on the springs.
                          {Change drop from 1 1/2" to 3/4". {I think I discovered how to build my own Lowering Link at "any" height I want.}
                    Pick Steve's brain to see if he has any suggestions on the Flash I'm using. (he told me I would have a problem)
                         I have his Mountain Runner Flash and it is great with my Stock exhaust and Area P slip on. {HIGHLY recommended}
                         Wondering; Maybe his Area P {Full System} flash would work better with the ZX header?

Ride safe, Ted
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #205 on: June 20, 2018, 05:53:28 pm »
Removed the right Muzzy Muffler/Mid-pipe and temporarily installed the Area P Muffler/Mid-pipe.
For now, I kept the Muzzy on the left side so (By blocking one or the other) I can hear the difference in sound.

The Area P is not that much quieter, but has a different/deeper tone.
Also gave me more ground clearance.

Tonight, I will finish the Area P install, remove, the left Muzzy, and plug that side for now.
Will see how that runs...

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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #206 on: August 15, 2018, 09:44:54 pm »
Previous Post National Report;
    Slightly drug the {bottom/left} mid pipe again. {My  (1 1/2") lowered bike is just too low}
    Some burble, surging when riding at "very" low throttle openings}.
      {Any throttle opening above the initial crack, runs like a scalded dog!!}
    To my ear, these puppies are too loud. {others liked the sound}

Latest Ride report with 1 Area P Muffler installed.
No more;  burble, surging when riding at "very" low throttle openings.
                Runs good!! Smooth roll on/cruise. But may have lost bit of the WOT power.
                Did not drag anything. The Area P Mid Pipe has more ground clearance..

As I'm crazy and like to tinker,,,, I currently installing a second Area p Muffler on the left side.
                                                 Building my own left Mid Pipe.

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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #207 on: September 16, 2018, 12:47:42 am »
Finally finished the mid pipe and installed the left Area P Muffler on the bike.
Looks good, sounds good, (lots quieter than the Muzzy Mufflers were} will test it soon.

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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #208 on: September 24, 2018, 10:15:42 pm »
Update to the update...
Rode Arkansas last weekend with the new Muffler set up.
Loved it!!!

Surging/loud/popping that I had with the Muzzy's is gone...
I think the difference is the I.D. of the mid pipes and the muffler ID.
Muzzy's were 2 1/4" ID. The Area P's ID is 2"...

For those that don't want to read back, I have 2008 ZX-14 headers installed w/o catalysts.

Ride safe, Ted
   
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #209 on: October 01, 2018, 09:21:22 pm »
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #210 on: October 02, 2018, 12:25:43 am »
Hey Ted
I lowered mine years ago, didn't last long , I felt it screwed up the ride, empty pick up truck rough.

As far noise , the Two Brothers sound sweet, I like hearing every burp, crackle, pop, very entertaining 

but I respect others so I use the smallest reducers they sell for these cans, not sure how they can call them
 
mufflers since it's just a open pipe with small holes , but those reducers change everything, domestication.

No need to change anything but those little reducers  :great:

Local bike shop where the owner professionally drag races a ZX14 tells me I'm giving away 3HP   :'(

 


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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #211 on: October 03, 2018, 03:15:53 pm »
Thank you Ron. {I sent you a note}..

Looking at the pictures I actually like the looks better with the Muzzy's, but the Area P mufflers are a better fit for me (Not as loud) and they are tucked in a lot better. More ground clearance..

Cuda, my Muzzy's don't have the inserts, nor holes to install them. Can you send a photo of yours?
I set the spring sag and mine is now rougher than I like. Would decrease pre-load but right now nothing drags in the twisties. Afraid softening it may make things drag when I'm playing in the Arkansas twisties with Cliff.

Currently building my own lowering links as I'm a bit too low..
   Now at 1 1/4" drop. Changing that to 3/4" drop...   >:D
     If that works out, I'll soften the preload a bit.
NOTE: I don't like the adjustable links as I prefer to use my center stand..

Talked to Steve. {Geez he's knowledgeable!}
He thinks there's more power available with a bit of tuning..   :great:

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #212 on: October 03, 2018, 05:01:52 pm »
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/two-brothers-p1x-power-tip

I installed even a size smaller than the ones shown.
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #213 on: October 04, 2018, 02:39:38 pm »
Thanx Cuda. I missed that you had the Two Brothers.
Now I understand your first note...

Baffles are not available for the Muzzy's nor the Area P.
I went to the Area P as it is much quieter than the Muzzy's…
     
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« Reply #214 on: October 04, 2018, 03:18:21 pm »
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Re: ZX-14 or ZX-14R Exhaust for a C-14?
« Reply #215 on: October 08, 2018, 03:45:56 pm »
Good looking set up.
Appear to be closer to the swing arm than mine. Nice!

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