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ZX14 System help
« on: November 24, 2017, 02:20:30 am »
Okay it's a 2009 bike I just purchased a 2007 ZX header and a set of 2007 mid pipes with two brother canisters. Problem I'm having is getting the cans down low enough to stay away from the bags and it seems no matter how I adjust the pipes I cannot get to that point if I adjust the pipes so the cans Point outwards I can do it am I missing something here can people please post their systems and how are you getting a 2-inch drop without bending something I am going to give it one more shot tomorrow and then put my single two brothers can back on. Any and all pictures would be very helpful of said left side hangers people are making and any modifications you're making to the mid pipes. If I did not want to use my bags I would not have a problem. And I have spent a good hour and a half reading through all the post in the Forum but I still need help please thank you :-[

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2017, 10:31:31 am »
IIRC...when I put the dual Muzzy/zx header combo on my '08 I installed the header, properly tightened the header manifold nuts and loose fitted the rest of the components. I purchased a left side hanger bracket from Muzzy ( they were still in business). With everything spaced and hung I then went back and tightened mufflers to mids and mids to header.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 03:02:49 pm »
Thank you I'm about to give it one more try if it doesn't work out I'm just going to pull the header and put my decatted  Factory header and single Two Brothers exhaust back on and sell the rest

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 07:39:59 pm »
Not C14 related, but kind of. The Givi side cases on my ZX14 fit perfectly with stock exhaust, then I put on a set of Akros and I had to modify the SW Motec racks because the cases hit the top of the akros. Seems to me if you run the stock dual ZX14 exhausts you will have plenty of clearance. Not what you are after, I know.

You might be able to get some metal strapping to lower the exhaust hangers? Won't be pretty, but may work?
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ZX14 System easy fix
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2017, 12:27:58 am »
So all I need it to do was install to 3 inch adapters off of the header that put the pipes out far enough that everything went on real easy and I built a custom hanger that's Incorporated with the lower left bag hanger I'll try to post pictures really worked out sweet

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Re: ZX14 System easy fix
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2017, 12:30:28 am »
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Re: ZX14 System easy fix
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2017, 01:06:20 am »
Nice!
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Left side muffler hanger
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 04:51:54 am »
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Re: Left side muffler hanger
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 12:56:27 pm »
An innovative solution.   :beerchug:

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Re: Left side muffler hanger
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2017, 03:08:35 pm »
Nicely done.
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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2017, 03:58:49 am »
Really surprised by the power increase was not expecting that. But the system is loud and at 60-70 mph the bars have more vibration in them. I'm not thrilled about having to modify the kickstand and cut and reconfigure the center stand. It really looks good but it took some work to get it to fit perfect. As for the noise I'm 61 and the juvenile delinquent in me likes it.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2017, 01:07:43 pm »
I went the 07 ZX14 catless header route, but welded the left side exit and put my Delkevic shorty on in the stock mounting position. Its gnarly loud at WOT, but purrs nicely at idle.  I do like the look of the duals tho.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2017, 06:13:04 pm »
Somewhere I saw you mention installing a ZX-14 stand.
Hoping that becomes a straight installation.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2017, 09:16:58 pm »
I went the 07 ZX14 catless header route, but welded the left side exit and put my Delkevic shorty on in the stock mounting position. Its gnarly loud at WOT, but purrs nicely at idle.  I do like the look of the duals tho.
Yeah these purr nicely at idle and even cruising they sound awesome, but crack the throttle and all hell breaks loose.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2017, 01:27:18 pm »
Hey Lurch.....

I attempted to "shim out" the OEM kickstand with washers, and had limited success.
Understanding it will take longer bolts as you referenced above to do this properly, didn't
you reference buying a ZX14 kickstand previously???

Can you comment on this?
Did it help with fitment and clearing the pipes on the left side of the bike??
Looks like the last pic you posted IS that shimmed out kickstand bracket.
What did you use for shims??  Looks like actual hex nuts....?

My kickstand drags in off camber-left-handers, and it really saps my confidence in the twisties knowing I'm going to drag the foot of my kickstand when leaned over.

And btw....I am ALL too aware of how much of a pain it was to convert and mount this system to the C14, but I DO love it and how it transformed the look, performance, and sound of my bike.  :)
Welcome to the club.  :great:

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2017, 01:34:43 pm »
When I put the dual zx/muzzy system on my 08 I was able to put a weld bead on the pad where the stand meets when folded. It was enough to hold the stand off the pipe without being in the way.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2017, 03:50:05 pm »
gpink; I did something similar when I built a 4 into 1 system for my C-10.
          But it was bit more basic.   :-[
           I put a blob of silicone glue on the contact point.
           When up, the stand rested against the blob, and didn't rattle..
           Worked great!

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PS: Before ya say it, I know; simple solutions for simple minds..
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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 01:07:19 pm »
Hey Lurch.....

I attempted to "shim out" the OEM kickstand with washers, and had limited success.
Understanding it will take longer bolts as you referenced above to do this properly, didn't
you reference buying a ZX14 kickstand previously???

Can you comment on this?
Did it help with fitment and clearing the pipes on the left side of the bike??
Looks like the last pic you posted IS that shimmed out kickstand bracket.
What did you use for shims??  Looks like actual hex nuts....?

My kickstand drags in off camber-left-handers, and it really saps my confidence in the twisties knowing I'm going to drag the foot of my kickstand when leaned over.

And btw....I am ALL too aware of how much of a pain it was to convert and mount this system to the C14, but I DO love it and how it transformed the look, performance, and sound of my bike.  :)
Welcome to the club.  :great:

gr
I just received the zx kickstand and just looking at it it would seem to fit up between the swing arm and mid-pipe . And my current setup also drags on tight twisties and puckers my a** . So I'm trying to get a mobile welder here to fix my center stand and then I will install the zx kickstand.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 02:23:01 pm »
Hey Lurch.....

I attempted to "shim out" the OEM kickstand with washers, and had limited success.
Understanding it will take longer bolts as you referenced above to do this properly, didn't
you reference buying a ZX14 kickstand previously???

Can you comment on this?
Did it help with fitment and clearing the pipes on the left side of the bike??
Looks like the last pic you posted IS that shimmed out kickstand bracket.
What did you use for shims??  Looks like actual hex nuts....?

My kickstand drags in off camber-left-handers, and it really saps my confidence in the twisties knowing I'm going to drag the foot of my kickstand when leaned over.

And btw....I am ALL too aware of how much of a pain it was to convert and mount this system to the C14, but I DO love it and how it transformed the look, performance, and sound of my bike.  :)
Welcome to the club.  :great:

gr
These are what I used for spacers 3 on each side. And also the zx kickstand

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Re: ZX14 System help (UpDate)
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2017, 01:10:48 am »
So I ordered a ZX14 kickstand to replace the c14 kickstand because of clearance problems. The ZX and the C-14 leg are identical the difference is where it mounts to the frame so I took the leg off of the C-14 and put it on the ZX kickstand base and now it worked perfectly more than enough clearance.Then I glued a 1/2 of a rubber washer to quiet it and give me a little under a 1/4" clearance from the mid-pipe.

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Re: ZX14 System help
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2017, 03:55:38 am »
2 questions.
 Do you have a comparison photo of the different  (ZG vs ZX) bases?
 With the ZX base, were you able to remove the shims?

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