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Offline The ice man

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I have to much heat coming from the engine. The windshield that was on the bike, when I bought it, is short and has no vent.  I have extended it with lexan. This is temporary, I would like to make or buy a new windshield with a vent.

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Other than adding a Laminar Lip product to a stock windscreen, there is basically no vents, or anything you could do, to effect any cooler flow of air, with the windshield.... other than cutting it down short... which, it seams you have.. sorry.
Other options for reducing pervieved heat from the engine can be found, altering the side vents, relocating the coolant resergoir and allowing that space to add some airflow from below, and if you wish, attempting some side fairing heat block off baffles.. but I find that just holds heat in, and can cause other issues like overhating, heating the fuel tank too much, and reducing the designed intent for cooling air pathways

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For improving airflow of the windshield, best I've read about (in my opinion) is the Madstad adjustable.
www.madstad.com


As MoB said, the rest is improving general airflow: Baker Air Wings, improved lower wings, the new idea someone has with putting a wing in front of the vents to increase air velocity, etc.
http://forum.cog-online.org/accessories-c10/vent-flaps-for-engine-heat/








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I love my madstad!  I do think if I were gonna do it over, I would get the tallest shield.  Most of the time I run mine all the way up.  The extra would be nice in the winter and you can lower it so that you can see over it in warm weather.

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MadStad are top of the line and expensive. I went with a "Pulg" produce that does about the same thing.
It's plastic, it's been on a few years and works just as well. Around $110 is what I paid.
search pulg.com, I think.

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MadStad are top of the line and expensive.

I don't have lots of money to throw around, but, my madstad is the best thing I've done to my connie.  Spent the same amount of money for a tubular handlebar mount and bars that didn't make me happy.  Have a pile of seats that didn't make me happy.  So yes, it's not cheap, and yes I'm top of the line happy.  My efforts at cheaping out, have, in the end, cost me more money than if I'd just bought what I really wanted to begin with. To each his own though...It also adds a touch of modern motorcycle look to the old girl.   :motonoises: :motonoises:

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Ice Man,check on Craig Vetters on-line offerings. He has a vent for his windshields that will work on anybodies,just cut and glue.    The Wizard
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EIce Man,check on Craig Vetters online offerings. He has a vent for his fairings that will work on anybodies,just cut and glue.    The Wizard

I did a screen using the Vetter pop outs.. didn't do a thing for heat.. did offer a slight backpressure relief for buffeting, but zero cooling adder.. I wouldn't cut holes again to try it, you really have to be carfull, and deburr everything, else the screen will crack...

But what can I say, have at it. :great:

Didn't offer anything more than a Rifle screen with lower vent panel did, and we modded one of those also using the pop outs, and it made a bunch more turbulance than without, or the stocker with pops.

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Love my Rifle system.  As MOB says, doesn't help the engine heat, but after trimming it to the best height for me, I have no turbulence, great weather protection and it doesn't look too bad either.
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   Madstad or Rifle?   I have had the Rifle for yrs and like it. Also had the Madstad for about 4 months (to much air) but went back to the Rifle. You being it the SW would probably like the Madstad for the better air flow on those hot SW days!! :)
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MadStad are top of the line and expensive. I went with a "Pulg" produce that does about the same thing.
It's plastic, it's been on a few years and works just as well. Around $110 is what I paid.
search pulg.com, I think.



I found www.puigusa.com - is that them?


What product of theirs did you have? Only thing I can find is a laminar lip-style item (but no pricing...their website is less than great)

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I found their website useless for here in America,they setup different in Euorpe???
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I'll second the Madstad, the shield can pull lots of air towards the rider when the shield is in the lowest and furthest back position.
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I've had a Rifle on the bike since (I believe) early 1994...6 or 7 years ago I replaced the tall screen with one that was slightly shorter. I also used a hole-saw attachment and drilled a large (approx. 1.5" diameter) on either side of the vent in the Rifle base.

I've been happy with it ever since...cuts down on some turbulence and back pressure and gives me a little better air flow

Love my Rifle system.  As MOB says, doesn't help the engine heat, but after trimming it to the best height for me, I have no turbulence, great weather protection and it doesn't look too bad either.
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Has anyone tried to re-direct the built in Rifle vent more toward your body instead of up the backside of the windshield?
While riding I've noticed that if I put my hand up where the vent is, I can angle the air more towards me.  Seems like a viable option for those with a Rifle shield.
I may get a hunk of lexan and figure out a way to mount it on top of the dash.
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I wish someone made a shorter shield for these bikes. I bought my 03 a few months ago with a Madstat on it. It would wobble a little around 70 mph no matter where i put it. I will not look through a shield on a bike. Ive got a truck if i wanna look through a shield. I took of the shield and mount, left the Madstat plate on and installed a Puig clipon deflector. I LOVE IT and i get some wind flow which is what riding a bike is all about. Anyone wanting Puig products find a bike dealer that buys from Western Power Sports (WPS) They carry them.
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That looks very cool, it's unfortunate you couldn't make the MadStad shield section work for you. Maybe one of their shorter shields would have functioned better, I think I ordered the 16", I find that on the lowest setting you get plenty of air and are looking over the shield not through.
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When I wanted more venting, I cut the top half or more off a stock shield and enjoyed full air on the chest and helmet. Was a great shield for summer in Cali.

I would switch out to a full aftermarket shield when temps dipped, usually Halloween through April-ish.

Note that it had no noticeable benefit on engine heat hitting feet and legs, so that's another issue.
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I wish someone made a shorter shield for these bikes. I bought my 03 a few months ago with a Madstat on it. It would wobble a little around 70 mph no matter where i put it. I will not look through a shield on a bike. Ive got a truck if i wanna look through a shield. I took of the shield and mount, left the Madstat plate on and installed a Puig clipon deflector. I LOVE IT and i get some wind flow which is what riding a bike is all about. Anyone wanting Puig products find a bike dealer that buys from Western Power Sports (WPS) They carry them.


JUSTA Thought; I have a MRA Vario Windshield on my C-14. The wind control and lack of buffeting sold me on the shield.
They are sold by; Twisted throttle.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouring-screen-windshield-for-kawasaki-concours-gtr1400-08

The reason I mention a C-14 shield is MRA also offers the X-creen. It's a wing that attaches to the top of a shield and looks much like the Puig clipon deflector that Snake suggested.

I know of some that have used it with success...
A stock shield with the lip removed and an X-creen might be the answer to your wants..
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-add-on-variable-windscreen-spoiler-blade-bolt-on-and-clamp-on-hardware-included

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I got interested in this MOD and need an old C-10 windshield to make a deflector like a MRA-Vario.
Does anyone have an old junker setting around that I can have/buy cheap?

I plan to cut a section out of it.

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I build a copy of the MRA Vario for my C-10.
  I call it a TWA Vario <evil grin>  {Ted W Adcock}

Used a cut-down stock shield that I already had, and added a piece from another stocker to make the deflector.
It's adjustable so I can adjust air flow where I want.
Haven't got to ride it yet. But it looks like it will be ok.
More later...

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you could just install a vent from a GL1800, I am purdy sure it would fit, just need to cut the squareish hole where you want the vent to go and boom your good to go. I am sure you can find the vents on ebay or amazon for cheaper, but this link has a video n stuff as information.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/national-cycle-vstream-windshield-vent-honda-goldwing-1800-2001-2016?gclid=Cj0KCQjwn6DMBRC0ARIsAHZtCeNmqIRC4lHHZJrrKWwxt_6khlElDD_eTktRRHFjJ4n0ojAMVVJToqEaApWEEALw_wcB

Just watched the video, they don't talk about the vent until around about 7:20 mark.
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You can buy a vent with adjustable louvers from Clearview too.

The buffeting was by far the biggest need for my quest to find the right shield.

I tried a lot of 'em - homemade tall and short, cut down stockers, Cee Baileys and Rifle's of different heights.

MadStad was the best I've found and its adjustable. 

Haven't looked back or felt the need to look for improvements since.

I love looking 6 - 8 inches above the shield with an unimpeded view, yet good wind and bug protection with minimal buffeting.

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I had a Rifle but my husband rigged up a shield with Firecreek Slides after we purchased a shield from a fellow COGger that was moving on to an FJR around 2007.  It was very inventive.  It consisted of Firecreek slides and a Gustafsson shield and stock shield; cut down as a base.  We have the only two in existence as far as we know.  The slides make it very adjustable. 

He was really just afraid that I was going to steal his shield for my bike....   :D

Honestly, we have had these custom shields on our bikes for close to 10 years and they are PERFECT.  Will post pics later if anyone is interested.

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I made a short shield for mine, I like it.

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