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Title: battery
Post by: mr t on January 20, 2019, 06:50:09 pm
I just replaced the battery in my 02 C10. I had last replaced it Jan.2009. Can't believe it lasted that long since it was an Everstart from  Wal-mart. I'm lucky with batteries though, got 15.5 yrs. from the original Motorcraft in my 94 Mazda B4000 and 14 yrs. from the original Yuasa in my 2002 Prairie 650.

   Tom Taylor COG#7173
Title: Re: battery
Post by: DC Concours on January 20, 2019, 06:55:20 pm
Wow. How do you make your batteries last this long?
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Mettler1 on January 20, 2019, 08:36:12 pm
   WOW!! I am impressed!!  :great:  I had a battery die right in my driveway after a 100 mile ride.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: mr t on January 21, 2019, 11:56:10 am
Wow. How do you make your batteries last this long?                     

      The bike battery spends 8 months in NY in my 06 C10, and 4 months in Sunny FL in my 02 C10 with me. Real COGGER frugality! The ATV battery stays in my warm house in NY for the winter months. The truck is long gone.

   Tom Taylor COG#7173
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Rod on January 21, 2019, 07:26:12 pm
  mr t what is the secret about the batteries' life.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: mr t on January 22, 2019, 12:12:07 am
Thru the years I've had my share of premature battery failure like most of us- I do realize these particular examples are rare. No secrets- just lucky.

  Tom Taylor COG#7173
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Strawboss on January 22, 2019, 07:06:16 pm
No secret, I get long life from my batteries too. Its all about how it is prepared for service when you buy it and how its maintained.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: RWulf on January 22, 2019, 11:30:33 pm
    + 1  preparation is most important.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: oldsmoboat on January 24, 2019, 12:39:14 am
No secret, I get long life from my batteries too. Its all about how it is prepared for service when you buy it and how its maintained.
Sounds like two secrets....
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Strawboss on January 25, 2019, 02:47:59 pm
Not at all, its a two part secret. ;D
Title: Re: battery
Post by: SR on February 08, 2019, 09:00:53 pm
What brand on battery is best for the C10?  I have a 4 year old Deka battery in it now.  I like to replace before it goes dead.
Steve
'99 C10 "Phurple"
Title: Re: battery
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on February 08, 2019, 09:45:04 pm
My all time favorite for the C10 is the Oddysey PC545..

they are ROBUST and last a long life, with no fiddling...

https://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc545-battery.html (https://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc545-battery.html)

it's a bit shorter, and smaller in it's "package", so a piece of styrofoam under and behind it, to keep it tight in the holder, may prove worth it... but frankly, it's THE battery.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: DC Concours on February 09, 2019, 03:54:54 am
$113 for a battery. no way man! I buy them for 35 bucks and they all last long enough for me not to feel bad when they die.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: bowtie39 on February 09, 2019, 04:03:55 am
My all time favorite for the C10 is the Oddysey PC545..

they are ROBUST and last a long life, with no fiddling...

https://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc545-battery.html (https://www.batterymart.com/p-odyssey-pc545-battery.html)

it's a bit shorter, and smaller in it's "package", so a piece of styrofoam under and behind it, to keep it tight in the holder, may prove worth it... but frankly, it's THE battery.
Oddysey??
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Mcfly on February 12, 2019, 03:15:41 am
My last battery was a Duracel.  Lasted 11 months.  Battery Tender when not in use... Did it all right
and it still died.  Free replacement!  I'll start worrying in about 7 months.  :)

Title: Re: battery
Post by: bajasam on February 12, 2019, 02:27:03 pm
Interstate,Walmart Everstart, Duracell, Optima, Diehard it dont matter their all made by the same company (Johnson Control) down in Mexico where there's no enviromental concerns. Just go for the one with the longest free replacement period and make sure it fails one month before, or pay the extra for a higher quality battery like dekka or oddesey.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: DC Concours on February 12, 2019, 04:11:24 pm
True. Most are made by johnson. I just buy the cheapest. they are all mostly the same.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Stasch on February 12, 2019, 05:09:48 pm
Knocking on wood while I type this:

on 4/17/2006   with 28,468 miles on the C10 I installed:

New Battery - AGM sealed - Yuasa YTX20HL - stamped: 03/2006

Still working as of last November when i winterized the bike at 98,000 miles.

Going on 13 years.  We'll see how she fares at the spring awakening.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: kkja13 on February 12, 2019, 10:04:02 pm
I'm working on year 2 with one of these cheap sealed AGM's from Amazon.  Oh by the way, I never use a battery tender and I have gone as much as 4 weeks between rides with no issues.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A82A3RK/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A82A3RK/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It wasn't my idea...It was Rev's.

http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-c10-zg1000-general-chat-and-tech/super-cheap-agm-18ah-battery-it's-frugaliscious (http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-c10-zg1000-general-chat-and-tech/super-cheap-agm-18ah-battery-it's-frugaliscious)!!!/msg527919/#msg527919


Title: Re: battery
Post by: connieklr on February 12, 2019, 11:28:50 pm
I've had pretty good luck with my batteries. Replaced the original after 6 years with a Yuasa YTX20L-BS, then finally replaced that one after 8 years with another. The second one has been in the bike for a little over 9 years.

Run an Odyssey PC545 in my KLR. Installed it after 4 years with the original, and that one lasted for about 6 years. Replaced it with another and it has been in the bike for a little over 5 years.

No battery tenders; just rode them a lot.  :-)
Title: Re: battery
Post by: DC Concours on February 13, 2019, 11:00:47 pm
I bought a cheapo ebay battery for 30-someting bucks. Going into my first winter, bike parked outside, no tender and I ride it every couple of weeks around town.

This will be a test on the quality. I don't expect much but will see how long it lasts.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Bud on February 14, 2019, 11:15:57 am
I'm working on year 2 with one of these cheap sealed AGM's from Amazon.  Oh by the way, I never use a battery tender and I have gone as much as 4 weeks between rides with no issues.

[url]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A82A3RK/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/url] ([url]https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A82A3RK/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1[/url])

It wasn't my idea...It was Rev's.

[url]http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-c10-zg1000-general-chat-and-tech/super-cheap-agm-18ah-battery-it's-frugaliscious[/url] ([url]http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-c10-zg1000-general-chat-and-tech/super-cheap-agm-18ah-battery-it's-frugaliscious[/url])!!!/msg527919/#msg527919

I bought one like that last year for my C10.  It stays on a tender if I'm not riding it.  So far so good!
Title: Re: battery
Post by: connieklr on February 14, 2019, 12:44:10 pm
When I ordered my second YTX, the dealer sent me the wrong one; the terminals were reversed. Rather than go through the expense of my returning the battery, they told me to just keep it and sent me the correct one. I never activated the "bad" one and it found its way to the loft of the garage after I built it.

I had put my first weakening Odyssey PC in my generator since it had electric start capability. Up until that point, I just used the pull starter. When the PC would no longer crank the generator over, I finally activated the "bad" YTX and installed it. That was a year or so ago, and so far, so good.



Title: Re: battery
Post by: Jorge on February 25, 2019, 11:34:55 pm
Just saw this thread, and I'll give my $0.02 worth (maybe a little less)

When I killed my C10 2.5 years ago, it had a East Penn made battery I had bought in 2012; it was working like the day I put it in. I parted out the C10 carcass, and kept the battery. I've put it on the trickle charger a couple of times, and as of now, it is still maintaining the proper OCV. I don't know how it would do on cranking amps or reserve capacity, but I suspect it would do decently well.

All batteries are NOT the same, nor are they all built by the same company. There are (as far as I know) at least three different USA companies: East Penn, Johnson Controls, Exide. I put them in the order I perceive their quality.

East Penn markets their batteries under the Deka name, but they brand them for many resellers, including Oreilly Auto Parts; this is where I've bought my vehicle and Motorhome batteries the last few years. My C10 battery came from a Meijer store in Indiana.

All the manufacturers brand their batteries for various resellers, and Wal-Mart did specify a cheaper (not just less expensive) battery from Delphi (Delco Remy back then) that had less lead than other batteries we were making at the time. This is what Delphi had to do to sell to W-M. Delphi sold the battery business to JC some years ago, and I presume that JC is still making the W-M batteries.

Some point to make them last longer... keep them charged, keep them cool.
Title: Re: battery
Post by: Boomer on February 26, 2019, 08:38:34 pm
1 - Don't flatten the battery. Once flattened it's damaged.
2 - Use a trickle charger if the bike is gonna be parked for more than a few days.
3 - Buy a half decent battery to start with. Cheap batteries are a false economy.