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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2017, 02:59:56 pm »
no details on the mounting yet.  this is what I got from a guy in europe who I ran into online.  he's done two C10s in the past.  however, he had no pics showing specific mount points.

my plan is to fabricate a plate which would use the upper and lower engine mounts on each side, then have some type of downtube from that plate.  that would attach to square tube along the bottom of the bike and attach somewhere around the center stand in the back.  that square tube parallel to the ground will allow me two mounts at the bottom for the base of the car.  the upper in the front will attach to the plate.  the upper in the rear will likely have to attach somewhere under the bodywork.  I've seen a nice example that went through the bodywork.

this doesn't show the best, but might give you an idea.  however, my install may be more crude in that I am thinking of running without the lower fairing parts.
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2017, 03:48:23 pm »
I think you could use the front upper and lower mounts fabing up something along the lines of how the tip over bars mount
You could modify the plastic
The lower rear you can use the centerstand mounting point and then a u bolt mount for the upper rear mount
Here is a link to a sidecar guy if you need some odd ball parts He may have what you need.
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2017, 03:57:10 pm »
yep.  that's pretty much what I have in mind.  the guys that do these professionally can do very good installs which would preserve the plastic.  note in that pic how the entire thing goes together with pinch bolts.  that's so the plastic can slide over the mounts.  I'm actually waiting for a guy to get back to me with answer as to whether he can build the frame for me or not.  if he can't, I'll move forward on my own. :great:
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2017, 11:34:39 pm »
I talked to the guy at DMC (last fall)he has the jig for a C10 but said it may take a little bit to find it since he has moved a couple of times since he has done one
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2017, 05:30:49 am »
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2017, 12:08:18 pm »
I talked to the guy at DMC (last fall)he has the jig for a C10 but said it may take a little bit to find it since he has moved a couple of times since he has done one

my local guy is Doug at A Wing And A Chair (he specializes in goldwings) has a call into Jay at DMC about the mounting system.  if he can't come up with it, then I'll have to figure it out on my own.  But Doug has a Texas Sidecars Ranger model that is a leftover from them going out of business.

here's their standard model attached to a Honda PC.  it's about the closest bike I can find to give an idea of what it would look like with the C10.  the Ranger model is a little wider but the same length.
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2017, 05:31:02 pm »
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2017, 06:22:03 pm »
you'll be able to remove one side of the tip-over bars.   :rotflmao:

that looks pretty comparable in size to the Texas Ranger.  do you have a pic from the side by chance?
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2017, 07:42:00 pm »
Dont have one next to the bike The nose comes about the end of the front forks and the rear comes to the rear axle or thereabouts final assembly may vary

This is how it was when I bought it last spring (lots of rust on the frame and brackets)
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2017, 12:37:45 am »
last spring?  how come it's not mounted yet???!!!   :-\
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2017, 02:51:56 am »
Second job, Riding season,school, New roof for garage, take your pick
Its on the list just not to the top yet
It is disassembled for blasting and painting
I bought it for a long term project when its raining or too hot /cold to ride
Im to the point I know one day down the road Im going to need it but it aint today :)
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2017, 01:01:45 am »
well, I should have a good front end and sub-frame solution ready when you get to it.   :beerchug:

I broke it all down yesterday.  this morning I made my weekly trip to Lowes and picked up some wire brushes to start the cleanup.  here's a before/after shot of some of the small parts I cleaned up and put a coat of paint on.

Now for those that know me, pretty and prefect doesn't have much of a place on my bike.  form and function override my lack of skills in the finishing touch department.  This front end will likely be the same.  it may not look perfect in finish, but I sure hope the form and function work out.  As for the paint, it's a rattle can job, so hey...it ain't gonna win a beauty contest.   :motonoises:

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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2017, 02:56:02 pm »
Ive looked into a redesigned triple tree that kicks the front wheel out Saw it on a page from UK/Europe If I cant find a leading link When I get that far into it
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2017, 12:36:44 am »
Ive looked into a redesigned triple tree that kicks the front wheel out Saw it on a page from UK/Europe If I cant find a leading link When I get that far into it

you might also look into brackets that bolt onto the bottom of the fork tubes which extend the axle and brake calipers forward.  I know DMC does it for KLR650s and I've seen pics of other bikes with them.  the only real difference between those and mine is the fork suspension rather than the twin shocks on mine.
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2017, 01:09:22 pm »
I'm so excited,
and I just can't hide it!
I'm about to lose control
and I think I like it,
I like it!

front end shocks arrive today! 

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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2017, 09:21:15 pm »
test fit...still a few stainless bolts to source, but it's looking good!

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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2017, 09:51:06 pm »
Very nice but that hammer doesn't look big enough :-[
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2017, 11:58:03 pm »
Very nice but that hammer doesn't look big enough :-[

It's not the size of your tool but how you use it that counts.   :D

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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2017, 12:08:56 am »
test fit...still a few stainless bolts to source, but it's looking good!
I like it
Now remind me why I need a new roof on the garage
This looks WAY more fun
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #44 on: February 23, 2017, 12:23:15 am »
Very nice but that hammer doesn't look big enough :-[

the 5 pound sledge is just out of frame.   :nananana:
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2017, 12:24:43 am »
test fit...still a few stainless bolts to source, but it's looking good!
I like it
Now remind me why I need a new roof on the garage
This looks WAY more fun

well, you're only talking about the garage...not the house, right?   ;D
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2017, 12:55:55 am »
test fit...still a few stainless bolts to source, but it's looking good!
I like it
Now remind me why I need a new roof on the garage
This looks WAY more fun

well, you're only talking about the garage...not the house, right?   ;D
Yep It was leaking on the parts department(parts bike)
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2017, 01:43:34 am »
Milestone!!!!!

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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2017, 05:56:47 pm »
good news on the sidecar front.  I heard from them that they can do the sub-frame on the C10.  that'll cost me some $, but save me the engineering and build time.  going down to discuss more tomorrow.   :great:
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Re: C10 LL and Sidecar Build
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2017, 07:54:16 pm »
good news on the sidecar front.  I heard from them that they can do the sub-frame on the C10.  that'll cost me some $, but save me the engineering and build time.  going down to discuss more tomorrow.   :great:
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