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Cam chain adjuster
« on: November 28, 2017, 01:24:45 pm »
How long does it take for the cam chain adjuster to adjust? 
I have a 2004 with 35k miles that I commute on about 3 days per week, 20 miles round trip.  I noticed back in the summer when the bike is cold there is a noise that sounds like a rattle with no real pattern to it.  Once the bike is warm the sound is gone.  From what I have read, if the sound goes away after it warms up then it is most likely the cam chain rattling.
Should I continue to wait for the magic to happen or do I need to help it?
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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2017, 02:14:43 pm »
Probably the adjuster need a little help to move to the next detent.

If the noise bug's ya.
Remove the center bolt on the adjuster. (carefully)
As you remove it a spring and a small pin will come out. (with force)
    {DON'T LOOSE THE SPRING AND PIN!!!} (don't ask me why I know this)

Put a small phillips screwdriver or blunt punch in the hole and push it to the bottom.
Give it a sharp tap. (not a bash!)

Reassemble and crank her up.

Done..........

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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2017, 03:21:51 pm »
Connie-rider,
You've kept your stock chain tightener, ie you haven't went to a Manual replacement adjuster... or you 'just sayin'??
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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2017, 03:34:54 pm »
The fiche only shows a spring, but no pin.  Where does the pin go?
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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2017, 04:04:57 pm »
That fische doesn't show the pin nor the internals of the tensioner. Not sure why?
The pin I'm referring to, floats loosely inside of the spring.
It will come out with the spring, (If not, use a small magnet to remove it).

Locomotiveman, I've owned 4 C-10's. The stock Tensioner has always worked fine for me. Never felt the need to replace it.
  ie; "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...   ;)

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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2017, 04:21:28 pm »
OK, thx
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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2017, 07:54:05 pm »
Said this many times before - allow the ratcheting tensioner to do it's own thing. Once the chain gets enough slack in it so it can advance to the next tooth, it will. Yes, the chain will be noisy for a spell until that happens, but, it will happen. With 194K on my own bike, it has gone through that cycle many times and there's really no good way to predict the length of time it takes to get back into it's quiet mode.

Interfering with the tensioner's ability to self adjust will only put undue stress on the chain, tensioner, sprockets, and the guides with the end result being premature wear on all of the affected components. Leave it alone.
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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2017, 07:59:40 pm »
Uh oh, the lazy side :bedtime2: of me just won out over the paranoid side :??:
Nothing shall be done!...well, until the next best opinion is given.  :rotflmao:
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Re: Cam chain adjuster
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2017, 09:14:00 pm »
Said this before many times before - allow the ratcheting tensioner to do it's own thing. Once the chain gets enough slack in it so it can advance to the next tooth, it will. Yes, the chain will be noisy for a spell until that happens, but, it will happen. With 194K on my own bike, it has gone through that cycle many times and there's really no good way to predict the length of time it takes to get back into it's quiet mode.

Interfering with the tensioner's ability to self adjust will only put undue stress on the chain, tensioner, sprockets, and the guides with the end result being premature wear on all of the affected components. Leave it alone.

The chain rattle-ing when cold and then going quiet when the engine warms up means that the tension on the chain is PERFECT!!!!
Absolutely :) PERFECT!! :) :beerchug: :beerchug:

I always replace my auto tensioners on all my bikes and quads to manual tensioners  BUT I always set them to slightly rattle when cold
(I want slightly loose rather  then slightly tight)  and when the engine warms-- quiet

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