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Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: Dirty Elbow on November 09, 2008, 12:16:00 am
Got another thing that's bugging me... The front brakes    New pads, stainless brake line, and master cylinder rebuild kit have all been installed. Yet the lever has a lot of travel in it before things begin to slow down.   Yeah they've been bled. That leaves caliper rebuild. Will that give the firmer feel that I seek?     I have read the stories regarding bleeding the system and think that it's been done correctly. Of course I'll do it again when I get the new black donuts.    Thanks  
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: Charlie_Gary_AAD on November 09, 2008, 02:19:00 pm
A buddy just put new lines on his front brakes, and he told me he fought it for a long time until he pulled his caliper from the mount and held it upside down and as high as the line would allow.  This allowed the air bubbles to rise up into the caliper instead of fighting gravity.  Ten minutes of this got him excellent lever feel, and he did two front calipers.      Later,           Charlie
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: Slybones on November 09, 2008, 03:21:00 pm
I would not do the caliper rebuild, I would do the caliper replacement. I would get some 4 pot calipers from ebay, new caliper brackets from COG member zrxmopar, and some new HH pads to do with it.    Strangely enough the calipers did not firm mine up all that great, until I broke the front brake lever at last years 2007 NWCOG regional rally. Upon installing the new lever, from the first second I squeezed it to check it worked it was a big big difference. During the course of that weekend, I had to change the dial setting to loosen it up a bit.     I also had the lines and stuff when I did mine calipers. After the new lever I have had more than one comment about lever travel and firm brakes. More than one Connie owner has done zrxmopars upgrade after riding my scoot. This can be done with the stock 300mm rotors or aftermarket 320mm rotors. You need to know in advance so you know which brackets to order. Hands down my favorite mod to the Connie.   2003 Concours  COG #6953  http://mysite.verizon.net/slybones/Concours/connieMain.htm
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: mtc1966 on November 09, 2008, 04:23:00 pm
would not do the caliper rebuild, I would do the caliper replacement. I would get some 4 pot calipers from ebay, new caliper brackets from COG member zrxmopar, and some new HH pads to do with it.    thats good advise except he his no longer producing or selling his adapters.    
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: Stasch on November 09, 2008, 11:57:00 pm
Try zip tying the front brake lever 'closed' overnight.  
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: Slybones on November 10, 2008, 02:03:00 am
thats good advise except he his no longer producing or selling his adapters    Bummer. Serious bummer.  :(  2003 Concours  COG #6953  http://mysite.verizon.net/slybones/Concours/connieMain.htm
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: smithr1 on November 10, 2008, 02:00:00 pm
Try dropping the bike, worked for me.  I had a gentle lay down once.  I think I was holding the front brake the entire time and someone helped me back up so I never let/got off.  My brake was more firm then any bleeding I have ever done after that.  But really, it is just hard to get a good bleed on some systems.  I think the tip over just dislodged a stuck bubble in the system somewhere.  ----------------------------------  I will answer any question.  It is up to you to figure out if I should have.  (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2343/2277636501_61718d569a.jpg?v=0)  <p align="left">My Photos<br (http://www.flickr.com/photos/20211686@N05/)
Title: Firm brakes?
Post by: diablo6v on November 10, 2008, 02:45:00 pm
This might sound to easy but I put new pads on. (EBC-FA-organics)New castol dot 4 all synthetic brake fluid. A work buddy told me to clean the hell out of the calipers and springs with brake clean. I beld them using motion pros brake bleeder tool($15)NO BUBBLES. Lever action is great. Complete two finger stops with OEM brake lines! I was way cool on them for the first 150miles or so(no glazing. My dust seals do need replacing & I want some new steel lines to complete the ugrade but this was really just maintenance..IMHO