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How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« on: June 12, 2017, 01:18:52 pm »
so, thinking on the way into work while riding one of my C10s into work.  I wonder how much longer these bikes are going to hold out in terms of being really viable to ride and maintain.

while the bike did have a wonderfully long run, parts availability will eventually wain and the aftermarket has already somewhat moved on.

Now...don't be fooled by this.  I'm not planning on getting rid of my C10s any time soon.  Just a wandering mind and foolish thoughts.   :))
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 01:50:15 pm »
As an owner of an '86 model, I recognize your feelings. Tires have been my concern since I prefer Avon's. Michelin's were on the bike when I bought it ( 1 owner with 59K on it; pods on the carbs, Rifle windscreen). When the Michelins went away and there were no replacements I went to Avon based on comments from this forum. I've just replaced the radials with bias type Avons and like them very much.
I have some maintenance items to do and at 98K the bike does have a few "warts", but it runs fine and has been a real hoot to ride.
At 78 years (soon to be 79), this is the last bike I'll own or ride, so I'm like you wondering how much longer I'll be able to service this bike. Support from this group, COG, makes me feel like I'll be able to do OK.
When riding, I still get looks at the bike, and ,yes it's still confused as being a Beemer. Most say they've never heard of a Concours. Other COG members say it's an awfully clean example of an '86.
So, I'll keep on riding it until "that" day when one of us just can't " the grade".

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 05:02:07 pm »
After 250k miles on C10s I will be keeping one in my garage until I can no longer ride.
Current bike has nearly 200k on him (bought at 82k) and requires regular maintenance but does 400+ miles every week.
My C14 will go before my C10.
That said my C10 is fairly modified with 4 piston brakes, Russell saddle, huge screen, bar risers, etc.
Would like to get ABS for the front brake but that's about all I'd change.
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 05:21:46 pm »
My 2002 just turned 15 years old and she runs better Now than when I bought her new. Many upgrades have been done to the Silverbullet over the last 15 years. This bike is without a doubt one of the most versatile motorcycles when it comes to adaptability  (i.e. ability to accept parts from other bikes). Still can't believe it has been 15 years since I got this thing.
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2017, 11:28:07 am »
I suspect a C10 can be kept on the road for many years to come.
Many of its "wearout" parts are shared with other bikes, and while the aftermarket is not as strong as it once was, it's still there.
Even tire sizes are shared so decent (or good) tires will be around.
There are a number of reasons why I went to the C14, but fear of parts was not one of them :-)

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2017, 12:50:22 pm »
Stop thinking and pay attention to the road. It's not how long the bike
will last it's how long we riders will.

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2017, 12:55:27 pm »
but I can't help it!   :-[

I owned a 92 Suzuki VX800 which that link of bikes met the fate of running out of useful spare parts to keep them going.  However, they only had a short run here in the states, so not as deep a parts pool to draw from.

No worries though, it was just one of those "hmmmmm" thoughts on the way to work.   :motonoises:
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2017, 02:18:14 pm »
For the price of a few parts you can find a complete C10 - strip it down and properly store the parts on a shelf.

I've done that with a few cars and one BMW bike - fuel pump $500 - complete bike $1200 - suddenly had $5,000 in spares.

I still would like a C10. McFly and Handyman and a few others have inspired me. Mine would be naked, round headlight, maybe pull a utility trailer for cooking gear - these things only get cooler with age  :motonoises:

 
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2017, 02:26:24 pm »
you need something like this on a slightly larger scale....
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 02:28:26 pm »
As Richard said, I, like him, am nearing the sunset of my riding. The old girl has served me well for 20 years, nothing major, just normal maintenance. There were approx. 25,000 C-10's made - parts will be no problem. As long as COG and this forum are supported, owners have an invaluable resource.

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 02:36:39 pm »
Yes I think these bikes will endure for as long as we have gasoline to run them. I understand the fear though, my 1980 Honda CB is pretty long in the tooth, and there are major parts that can only be found used. It has been a few years since I was on that forum, but there were companies making aftermarket cam chain tensioners and chains for racing, and those are two biggies that are needed. Those CB's had a short production run of just a few years, before Honda redesigned out some of the quirks on their DOHC engines. That 1980 still makes our "aging" C10's seem like spaceships.
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 03:18:05 pm »
I think about our aging machines at times and wonder how long they will be around too.
They are becoming a little cult like, I've had strangers come up to me and ask what BMW model it is or how old is that bike, etc. There will always be someone interested in keeping an antique sport tourer going ::).
The support from COG and especially all the C10 gurus has kept me in the game.
 I think there are enough parts around to outlast my riding career, hopefully around 20 years.

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2017, 11:10:24 pm »
One night I was parking at the grocery store and a guy on a BMW parked alongside to compare notes, then he realized what I was riding  ;D

I'm not too concerned about parts for the C10, still plenty of them out there.
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2017, 11:39:49 pm »
you need something like this on a slightly larger scale....

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2017, 02:43:10 am »
The bike I had before buying a C10 was an '82 Yamaha XZ550 Vision, water-cooled V-twin, dohc on each cylinder, 4 valves per cylinder, shim over bucket adjustment, shaft drive, comfortable seating. Quite advanced for its time, only produced in '82 and '83. I bought mine new in '84.

This was my touring mount for 20 years from 1984 to 2003, despite some notable reliability issues. I sold mine but the model is still going strong and there is a supporting website.

So there's hope for the Concours, which I've only had for 14 years now.

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2017, 01:08:09 pm »
Larry I am here and still kicking and riding. Did not make it to the National this year
because, of a few other things and well I didn't.
I agree with all the statements about the C-10. I have had a few bikes in the last 50 years.
This one still rides nice and slow for me and parts are plentiful and not that expensive.
My older Triumph is going to brake me, I still love the bike thou.

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2017, 01:29:23 pm »
I think the c-10 is going to be around for a long time yet, as the parts availability on the used market is huge. My work on the c-10 has really dwindled though, as because of age and corresponding reduction in value owners aren't putting money into the bikes like they did before. I get it, but going back to the days of "home grown" carb work is going to hasten the death knell for many otherwise road worthy bikes. We see this on the forums with the newbies... they're will never know how nice the c-10 can run, and it will be considered a failed project because it was "junk" to begin with... and then more used parts hit the market... parts from a bike the COULD have given years of service had the owner spent a little more to get the bike right. Steve
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2017, 03:02:19 pm »
Very good point Steve......you sure know your Connies!!

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2017, 04:31:17 pm »
I think the c-10 is going to be around for a long time yet, as the parts availability on the used market is huge. My work on the c-10 has really dwindled though, as because of age and corresponding reduction in value owners aren't putting money into the bikes like they did before. I get it, but going back to the days of "home grown" carb work is going to hasten the death knell for many otherwise road worthy bikes. We see this on the forums with the newbies... they're will never know how nice the c-10 can run, and it will be considered a failed project because it was "junk" to begin with... and then more used parts hit the market... parts from a bike the COULD have given years of service had the owner spent a little more to get the bike right. Steve

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2017, 10:06:09 pm »
The ZG1000 is timeless in looks, it's easy to maintain, and a joy to ride.  Though I have NO room,
I'm contemplating a 2nd bike, and already told the wife that the Connie WILL stay, even if I have to
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All that said....  I need to get back on the bike more.  Road construction on the commute has
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2017, 02:00:04 am »
The ZG1000 is timeless in looks, it's easy to maintain, and a joy to ride.  Though I have NO room,
I'm contemplating a 2nd bike, and already told the wife that the Connie WILL stay, even if I have to
put one in a storage unit...   


and it won't be the Connie...  :)

All that said....  I need to get back on the bike more.  Road construction on the commute has
hampered my riding... not the roads, the standing traffic.   :??:

It's funny, but the looks are timeless. People who know bikes, especially sport bikes, may chide the styling. However most people see what looks like a modern bike, and some people will even ask you if it's new  :rotflmao:
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2017, 12:07:07 pm »
My plan is to keep my 2000 C10 for the next 15 years or more.

I know how to maintain it, and am going to just run it for as long as it will go.

Its at 92,000 miles now.  At the miles per year average that I ride, and the longevity these bikes have shown (some with 250,000 miles and more - and still going) it will be my energizer bunny motorcycle that keeps going and going and going.

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2017, 05:18:29 pm »
to fais in southeast area, or anyone interested. I have a '97 concours, also in the southeast area(Roopville, ga.), that I converted to naked bike due to p/o unintended encounter with a suicidal deer. selling due to health issues. don't have computer skills to post here, but it's on craig's list with pictures and details. price should show $1100, (just reduced). close to $2000 invested. the oil leak mentioned in the ad sounds similar to the college student's problem on another post on this forum. long live connie! 

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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2017, 08:10:17 pm »
I will help keep them on the road,for as long as I can.SO BUY MORE PARTS TO KEEP THEM IN MOTION!!!(lol)    The Wizard
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Re: How Much Longer Will the C10 be Viable
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2017, 10:15:54 pm »
I'm going to keep my '98 as long as I ride.... I'm 64 and the bike has 95K miles. Still looks pristine  and runs great. Oh, sometimes my eyes wander - maybe a bike to look cool riding through town might be fun, but for what I need, the Concours is the bike. We tried out a C-14 and just didn't care for it, plus I'd need to find a wife with longer legs. The C-14 is a great bike, but I'm happy with what I have.
Lately I've been riding 10K miles a year and trips to Mexico still give me hope to make it through another winter - something to look forward to.