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Offline WillyP

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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2018, 09:30:39 pm »
Ah... guess I misunderstood when you asked how the 800rpm idle sounded.  ;)
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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2018, 09:41:11 pm »
ok,, good news,, the tension-er is out,, and in the tension bar there is a small spring that is displaced and not pushing against the tension bar, I bet that is the culpret.  anyone know what Im talking about,, its a second very small spring that presses on the locking mechanism of the tension bar, its pointing out of the notch at me instead of at the lock.  That would explain why it doesn't low it would seem.  Or why it doesn't click to the next tooth.
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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2018, 10:04:39 pm »
Ok,, tension-er is back in, I swear it had hair tangled in it,, or something resembling hair.  I reset it and heard it click and lock as I put the main spring , pin , washer and nut back in place.  Started her up,, and ............................sounds about the same  >:(, no more dodging the open caseket any longer :truce:.  I think now I have a couple valves not too perfect  :'(  I hate working on my toys , would rather be playing on them :))
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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2018, 11:01:59 pm »
ok,, good news,, the tension-er is out,, and in the tension bar there is a small spring that is displaced and not pushing against the tension bar, I bet that is the culpret.  anyone know what Im talking about,, its a second very small spring that presses on the locking mechanism of the tension bar, its pointing out of the notch at me instead of at the lock.  That would explain why it doesn't low it would seem.  Or why it doesn't click to the next tooth.


the spring you are noting, presses against a ratchet pawl, which in turn locks the adjustment rod when it moves forward; it is a very common point that the spring kinks sideways, and is easily fixed when inspected....
I will however comment, that your 1992 model should not have that same issue, as those came with a "rotating" spring tensioned mechanism, not the inline "push spring and pin", which was introduced in 1994 IIRC.

I'll also add, please obtain and read a FSM for your bike, that way you will be able to understand the simple method for adjusting/Inspecting valve clearances.. it's not a big deal, most of us can do this in about 2 hours (novice), or 1 hour (someone that has done them)... with little effort more than you spent doing this chain adjuster fix.
You seem to equate a simple valve adjust, removing the valve cover, with something like "splitting the cases".. which confuses me in your logic. Until you actually inspect them (yes, I hear you insisting the p/o did this, and it's perfect... but then again, your carb synch, which is directly related to correct valve function, and engine operation, was never done...was never done, until you did it.. so I question the mechanic doing the work, once again.)

It will pay you to listen to all of the people that DO know these bikes, and tell you to pay attention to progressions and means/methods of servicing them, many of these people, including the one you felt "insulted your Intelligence", actually have the viable hands on experiences in these issues.... some of the commentary on your part, has me shaking my head, and asking 'WHY'..
things like insisting IDLE (not Idol) speed, at 800rpm, is doing anything good for your engine... unless you know how much oil is being pumped to critical areas, requiring proper oil film thickness and supply, you are not listening when we say IDLE should be at 1000 to 1100 rpm, which is normal and correct. There is a substantial difference in the oil pressure, and flow... to prevent damage.

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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2018, 11:52:35 pm »
 :great: what MOB said! :96:
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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2018, 03:01:11 am »
Oh no , grammar nazi's , Im doomed.  ok, never mind.   And the owners manual is gone, prev owner can't find it in his shop, since his surgery.  His shop was taken over by his help during recovery.  But I can pester others with my antics.  I always did hate forums, they don't show facial expressions and sarcastic humor very well.  But I have done too many valve jobs to look forward to it.  Thanx for all the feedback .  I am tired this too.  Sometimes the best way is to go it alone.
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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2018, 04:02:53 am »
.  I always did hate forums, they don't show facial expressions and sarcastic humor very well.  But I have done too many valve jobs to look forward to it.  Thanx for all the feedback .  I am tired this too.  Sometimes the best way is to go it alone.


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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2018, 12:18:44 pm »
Oh no , grammar nazi's , Im doomed.  ok, never mind.   And the owners manual is gone, prev owner can't find it in his shop, since his surgery.  His shop was taken over by his help during recovery.  But I can pester others with my antics.  I always did hate forums, they don't show facial expressions and sarcastic humor very well.  But I have done too many valve jobs to look forward to it.  Thanx for all the feedback .  I am tired this too.  Sometimes the best way is to go it alone.


Take it with a grain of salt around here man .These are all good folks , ya just gotta take some crap once in awhile...lol. If you want your Concours right , this is the place for sure . If you become a member you have access to the tech pages and Concourier articles . Those are way better that any service manual and beat asking and recieving a bunch of answers . I havent cracked the cover of my manual since I joined and I've had to do plenty of work to my 30 year old bike .
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Re: Light ping or tapping
« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2018, 02:32:05 pm »
How does the 800 rpm idle sound to you COGGERS?
Dam...to be very honest with you it sounds like cr@p!! That is not a Harley engine!
Do not let that engine idle below 1100 RPM. You have very very little oil pressure when you do that.
That is a Ninja based engine and it likes to rev which means it is bad to lug or low idle that engine. For example.. my KTM race engines MUST idle at 1800rpm and NOT below that. Other bikes that I know are even higher..2200RPM  is normal idle. Below that is bad. So listen to what we are telling you. We know!!
My Suggestion: You should really get rid of that automatic cam  chain tensioner and buy an APE manual tensioner


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