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Title: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 09:58:26 pm
Would a motorcycle lift be helpful,? to make work easier? Harbor freight has some for under $100.00 maybe a home made one?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2019, 10:08:37 pm
you can't beat the H/F platform, for the $ modify to suit....your back, and knees will thank you...

and forget about the $100 one, wait till this one is on sale, subscribe to H/F and you will get monthly "deals"


https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lbs-steel-motorcycle-lift-68892.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-lbs-steel-motorcycle-lift-68892.html)


Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 21, 2019, 10:12:48 pm
What he said ^^
(https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/8/68892_I.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 21, 2019, 10:15:06 pm
This won't work.
(https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/0/60536_W3.jpg)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 10:23:55 pm
Harbor freight has one for $89.99 I see a picture of one on your post. I thought it would make things easier for me.? Not to expensive.  But I heard it will not work for a 99 concours?  Is this true?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 10:31:59 pm
That one is $400.00 must be nice but $400.00 I was hoping for something under $200.00?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2019, 10:32:53 pm
look at/under your bike....
no, it will not work.... :-X :truce:
and even if you could "make it work"... well,.... prepare for being a Conni Dropper's Anonymous member...
 :-\ :-\ :-\

like I noted, if you have a H/F local, and can pick up... you have an advantage, subscribe to them, and when they go on sale ( like every 2 weeks..) you can pick one up for around $260

can't buy anything close, for less.

be safe
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 10:34:22 pm
Oops you don't have that one on your post it is on bud post.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 10:38:23 pm
Ok  I understand it won't work. Is there something under $400.00 that would work.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2019, 10:39:00 pm
Oops you don't have that one on your post it is on bud post.

and he said....????? :)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 21, 2019, 10:43:26 pm
I get all the stuff from HF and keep it in the "reading room"  :rotflmao: :rotflmao:  Anyway, I've not seen it below $279.  Don't see $279 often.  $299 is more common and $289 less common than that.  When you get one, it's one of those things that you wish you would have bought years ago.  HTH
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2019, 10:52:29 pm
Feb and March catalogs were at $399...
April will likely bring out the $280 or less price...
and even then, If you Join the H/F club, it's discounted even further for onsite pickup.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 10:53:27 pm
I am on a budget.  But I need a good way to save my knees and back. I wonder if could make a one?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 21, 2019, 10:59:22 pm
Depends on whether or not you're a jack of all trades, including being a good fabricator.  We have those around here.  Haven't heard of anyone building one.  It can be done. :)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 11:09:35 pm
 I might be able to convince my girlfriend to put it on her credit card. This work stand really works good.....?$=$?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2019, 11:11:52 pm
I am on a budget.  But I need a good way to save my knees and back. I wonder if could make a one?

jeepers...
google.....


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AOHY_enUS710US710&q=homemade+motorcycle+table&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzjMvgupThAhVNgK0KHV9xA_AQ7Al6BAgGEBs&biw=994&bih=473 (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AOHY_enUS710US710&q=homemade+motorcycle+table&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzjMvgupThAhVNgK0KHV9xA_AQ7Al6BAgGEBs&biw=994&bih=473)


Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 11:15:45 pm
Any complaints about the work stand?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 21, 2019, 11:23:45 pm
All I can do is repeat myself.  Rich and I are not BSing you.  I think we're both known for giving our true opinion on whatever we're asked about.  Rich gets beat on because of that from time to time by folks that don't know how to take him.  Someone told me one time that they didn't always like what I said, but they knew where they stood.  Go buy one! :)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 21, 2019, 11:27:53 pm
having built a half dozen over 40+ years...
they were fine for dirtbikes, back before affordable true lifts came about...
today, meh... time/cost/time/danger level with a "heavy bike"... I pass...

I built "tilt style" ones, but getting a bike on and stable, is a multi person adventure...
and even then, they are all gonna be a "fixed height"...


open canvas man, paint away...(borrow her credit card when they go on sale next month...) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 21, 2019, 11:28:26 pm
OK I will.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 21, 2019, 11:34:34 pm
I can sell anything to anyone if I believe in the product I'm selling.  You won't find me pushing stuff I don't believe in.  If somebody took my lift, there's gonna be trouble. :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2019, 01:02:03 am
This won't work.
([url]https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/0/60536_W3.jpg[/url])


I now have a Harbor Freight lift and agree it is the best way to go, but I know from personal experience, this type of lift can be used to lift a C10.  I used one to service my 2000. 

It has been several years, but as I recall I removed the belly pan and used a piece of 2 X 4 between the front jack lifting and the underside of the engine (oil pan) and rear jack lifting point placed under the lower shock mounting point.  The 2x4 acts a spacer to allow the jack fit in the narrower space. If you look under the bike this will make more sense. Ratchet straps were used to secure the bike to the jack and I also had a helper when raising and lowering. Once the bike is up and the ratchet straps tight it is very solid.

There used to be thread where a member - linby,  had posted photos of the exact steps I described above. Perhaps some of the veteran forum members remember this, I think it might have been before the forum split 10 or so years ago.   

Just found this:  http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-c10-zg1000-general-chat-and-tech/remove-belly-pan-to-use-lift/ (http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-c10-zg1000-general-chat-and-tech/remove-belly-pan-to-use-lift/)

Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: who me? on March 22, 2019, 01:21:18 am
HF platform lift
As said before The extra bucks are worth the saved knees
It has gotten so bad around here I put the bike on the lift just to check the air
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 22, 2019, 02:59:25 am
The harbor freight platform work stand looks good to me. It is a little  more money but I think it's worth it. I wonder if the hydraulic Jack ever went bad,if you can buy a new one? I can't think of much else that could go wrong with it? Can you get parts for it , if you ever needed too?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Bud on March 22, 2019, 10:13:15 am
The harbor freight platform work stand looks good to me. It is a little  more money but I think it's worth it. I wonder if the hydraulic Jack ever went bad,if you can buy a new one? I can't think of much else that could go wrong with it? Can you get parts for it , if you ever needed too?
That's crossed my mind a bunch of times.  My bet is you're not going to get a replacement cylinder from HF.  I may call today and ask.  It could be that one would just have to source a cylinder somewhere else and adapt it.  Has anyone had one fail?  How did you repair it afterwards?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Brian on March 22, 2019, 10:34:28 am
The harbor freight platform work stand looks good to me. It is a little  more money but I think it's worth it. I wonder if the hydraulic Jack ever went bad,if you can buy a new one? I can't think of much else that could go wrong with it? Can you get parts for it , if you ever needed too?

That's crossed my mind a bunch of times.  My bet is you're not going to get a replacement cylinder from HF.  I may call today and ask.  It could be that one would just have to source a cylinder somewhere else and adapt it.  Has anyone had one fail?  How did you repair it afterwards?



They do fail.

http://forum.cog-online.org/say-anything-here-except-that!/harbor-freight-mc-lift-jack-is-hosed/msg521436/#msg521436 (http://forum.cog-online.org/say-anything-here-except-that!/harbor-freight-mc-lift-jack-is-hosed/msg521436/#msg521436)


I have also read that out of the box the HF lifts are low on oil. I make it a point to check mine regularly.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: who me? on March 22, 2019, 10:52:14 am
The harbor freight platform work stand looks good to me. It is a little  more money but I think it's worth it. I wonder if the hydraulic Jack ever went bad,if you can buy a new one? I can't think of much else that could go wrong with it? Can you get parts for it , if you ever needed too?
That's crossed my mind a bunch of times.  My bet is you're not going to get a replacement cylinder from HF.  I may call today and ask.  It could be that one would just have to source a cylinder somewhere else and adapt it.  Has anyone had one fail?  How did you repair it afterwards?
I have seen some people adapt an air/hydraulic cylinder to the lift
If/when the OE cylinder gives out this is what Ill do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fN5Y6ol0ko (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fN5Y6ol0ko)
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Grant on March 22, 2019, 11:38:05 am
I am on a budget.  But I need a good way to save my knees and back. I wonder if could make a one?
As a welder fabricator I would say it would be tough to buy the material for less than HF wants for that lift. I have had my eye on that lift for a while now, it's not quite as sturdy as the  Competitors offer but it is less than a 1/3 the price. I kinda look at that lift as the material I need to build the lift I want. Just stash a little cash and wait for the deal you're not going to find any thing else even close to the price. There will be a couple thing you will want to modify but it should serve you well.  You may try but going cheaper I am sure would end up costing more in the long run or you would just not be satisfied.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: The ice man on March 22, 2019, 12:27:46 pm
Is the hydraulic Jack rebuildable?
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: mnbikeguy on March 22, 2019, 05:12:01 pm
Is the hydraulic Jack rebuildable?
I think I hear the concern about quality but I think you're over-stressing about this. My experience with HF lift products is that they work well but you just need to make sure before you use them that they have enough hydraulic fluid. For tons more information about this particular product head over to their website. They have a handy owners manual with detailed information available for download. Hell for fun, here's the link (https://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/69000-69999/69904.pdf). You can also call their info line at 1-800-444-3353.
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 22, 2019, 08:25:02 pm
H/F just sells the lift, if it's bad from the get go, or fails during the covered period of warranty, they will make it right...
as for failures;
I got my lift, and a second older one, on a trade for doing service on someone's bike;
one was almost brand new, the other was used... the older one did "bleed down", but the cylinder was not a "leaker", and was intact... it was fine, would pump up perfectly, and when utilized as it should be used, placing the "safety bar/lock rod" in place, and lowering the lift on the bar, like the instructions explain, it worked fine... never failed to "lift and work".
the newer one, never had an issue, I've had it 10+ years now... it does have a different cylinder than the real old one had... never tried to buy a replacement.. all tho I'm sure you can get one for the current style units.. not specifically from H/F, but from the manufacturer (Pittburgh tool/equip co.)(?) all the info is in the instruction sheet with the unit, including part lists, and warranty contact...
Also, instructions on HOW to assemble, and USE the lift... all downloadable from the H/F page where the lift is for sale
The biggest issue people report, is explained in the instructions (I think)... how to "bleed/remove air from the pump" the lift cylinder/pump prior to initial use, when assembled after shipping... when this is done, it's trouble free....

people just don't read the book.... :)) :)) :))

I think every hydraulic jack or device I ever purchased required that process during initial use.

Just realized the person in the response above mine, gave the download link for the book... sweet.... my old book didn't give a breakdown on the pump parts, so there Ya go... can't beat that.... :great: :great: :beerchug:
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on March 22, 2019, 09:05:27 pm
The harbor freight platform work stand looks good to me. It is a little  more money but I think it's worth it. I wonder if the hydraulic Jack ever went bad,if you can buy a new one? I can't think of much else that could go wrong with it? Can you get parts for it , if you ever needed too?

That's crossed my mind a bunch of times.  My bet is you're not going to get a replacement cylinder from HF.  I may call today and ask.  It could be that one would just have to source a cylinder somewhere else and adapt it.  Has anyone had one fail?  How did you repair it afterwards?



They do fail.

[url]http://forum.cog-online.org/say-anything-here-except-that[/url]!/harbor-freight-mc-lift-jack-is-hosed/msg521436/#msg521436 ([url]http://forum.cog-online.org/say-anything-here-except-that[/url]!/harbor-freight-mc-lift-jack-is-hosed/msg521436/#msg521436)


I have also read that out of the box the HF lifts are low on oil. I make it a point to check mine regularly.


everything fails sooner or later... the one you linked got "fixed"... :rotflmao: :great: :beerchug: :beerchug:
Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: donaldj on March 23, 2019, 10:52:31 am
I am on a budget.  But I need a good way to save my knees and back. I wonder if could make a one?

As a welder fabricator I would say it would be tough to buy the material for less than HF wants for that lift. I have had my eye on that lift for a while now, it's not quite as sturdy as the  Competitors offer but it is less than a 1/3 the price. I kinda look at that lift as the material I need to build the lift I want. Just stash a little cash and wait for the deal you're not going to find any thing else even close to the price. There will be a couple thing you will want to modify but it should serve you well.  You may try but going cheaper I am sure would end up costing more in the long run or you would just not be satisfied.


For those that have the ability to build one, here is a link to purchase plans,$15.00. It uses a floor jack.

http://www.afabonline.com/table_lift_plans.htm (http://www.afabonline.com/table_lift_plans.htm)



Title: Re: Motorcycle lift 99 concours
Post by: Grant on March 23, 2019, 01:12:40 pm
The only issue I have seen people consistently report with the HF lift is the restraint system, (wheel chock and tie downs) but have also seen posts showing ez mods that fix the problem.
I am on a budget.  But I need a good way to save my knees and back. I wonder if could make a one?


As a welder fabricator I would say it would be tough to buy the material for less than HF wants for that lift. I have had my eye on that lift for a while now, it's not quite as sturdy as the  Competitors offer but it is less than a 1/3 the price. I kinda look at that lift as the material I need to build the lift I want. Just stash a little cash and wait for the deal you're not going to find any thing else even close to the price. There will be a couple thing you will want to modify but it should serve you well.  You may try but going cheaper I am sure would end up costing more in the long run or you would just not be satisfied.


For those that have the ability to build one, here is a link to purchase plans,$15.00. It uses a floor jack.

[url]http://www.afabonline.com/table_lift_plans.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.afabonline.com/table_lift_plans.htm[/url])






Thanks for the link looks like a nice lift however I am willing to bet that even using a floor Jack one already has, the steel alone would cost more than the HF lift.