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Offline Richard

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oil capacity
« on: October 22, 2018, 02:06:34 am »
Out of curiosity, what would happen if you added 3.9 quarts of oil after an oil change? Is that too much? Is there a danger of damage? 2004 Concours.

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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2018, 02:51:14 am »
That is too much oil if the engine is wet. Did you add all that?

Usually oil would seep through the breather hole, water pump seal should pop out and there may be some damage to the engine and oil pump due to the pressure.

 

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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2018, 03:02:51 am »
That is too much oil if the engine is wet. Did you add all that?

Usually oil would seep through the breather hole, water pump seal should pop out and there may be some damage to the engine and oil pump due to the pressure.


  Yup. 3qts with an oil filter change. When I do mine (on the center stand) I let the engine run 'til the cooling fan kicks in. Shut down for several minutes and then look at the crankcase sight glass. Oil should cover 2/3 of the sight glass. That's what I have done for the last 24 yrs. Works for me. :great:
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2018, 06:33:24 am »
It takes more if you have the SPOOFAK kit depending on which filter you use (Search the forum for that) and a spin on oil filter, but that's still too much. If you have the OEM set up, 3 is all you need.
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2018, 12:54:46 pm »
3 quarts for my C10 as well, changing both oil and filter, both stock and with SPOOFAK using Kawasaki spin-on 16097-0008 (Kawi replacement for 16097-0004).

I try to "calibrate" the process by watching how much is needed the first couple of times, then I just use the same parts and put in the same amount all the time.  Quick check of the window and I'm good.  Makes it easy to change the oil frequently.

On another note, I see Mettler1 is getting into the spirit of Halloween, having installed the SPOOKFAK version of the kit.  Either that, or it's a special CIA black-ops research project he can't tell us about.   (Sorry, couldn't help myself) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2018, 01:27:01 pm »
  CaffeineMan got me after all these yrs. I have spelled "SPOOFAK" wrong these yrs. Well I ain't gonna change it after all this time!! ::) 
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2018, 06:37:11 pm »
It takes more if you have the SPOOFAK kit depending on which filter you use (Search the forum for that) and a spin on oil filter, but that's still too much. If you have the OEM set up, 3 is all you need.

I can't say that the filter makes a big difference, but I installed SPOOFAK's on both my bikes, and using the long or short Purolater filter made little difference...
after draining from BOTH drain plugs, and using a new filter, I prefill the filter from a fresh quart, Install the filter, dump the remaining oil in, and follow it with 2 more quarts, and 5 ounces.... and never worry... that is actually the correct oil level in the book, based on Liter amount noted, and it always comes up correct in my oil window...  so my opinion is 3 quarts + 5 ounces...
I have never 'added oil' by using the window as a 'gauge', I just use that as verification the oil is in there, and at the line.

YMMV

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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 06:41:06 pm »
MOB, I drain from both drains. My window still gets full at about 2.5 qts. What am I doing wrong? Only thing, I just never warm up my bike before draining. It sits overnight and to me that is good enough.


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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 07:00:50 pm »
  CaffeineMan got me after all these yrs. I have spelled "SPOOFAK" wrong these yrs. Well I ain't gonna change it after all this time!! ::)

SPOOKFAK looks better anyways.  I'm just being a pest...  Couldn't resist...  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 09:36:07 pm »
MOB, I drain from both drains. My window still gets full at about 2.5 qts. What am I doing wrong? Only thing, I just never warm up my bike before draining. It sits overnight and to me that is good enough.

I have no idea.  2.5 quarts = 2.36 Litres.. that is not enough, by the book...with or without a new filter...
I do my changes with the bike cool also and sitting on the centerstand..
drain, remove filter, prefill spin on, and use the quantities I noted above...

the book says:
2.7 litres with no filter change (I never change oil without filter' but that is equal to 2 qt's + 27 oz.)
3.0 litres with a filter change  (3 Qt's + 5 oz)

and that's what I've always done,pre SPOOFAK and after SPOOFAK; and my fill line is right on the money after running the bike, and it is sitting tires on the ground.

YMMV.
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 10:32:52 pm »
My '06 takes more than 3 quarts, but not much.  Factory filter set up.
It's less than a 1/4 quart more, but it is more.

I fill my oil to just below the top line...  The '06 oil light on hard braking issue is resolved with a wee bit more.

I fill 3 quarts, run the bike on the CS for a minute, then shut it off, let it rest for 15 minutes, then top off
with the last few ounces.  Done. 

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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2018, 02:59:17 pm »
Crap! You gotta change the oil in these things? ;D
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2018, 10:29:44 pm »
Crap! You gotta change the oil in these things? ;D

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The REAL question is which oil?    >:D
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Re: oil capacity
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2018, 02:17:18 am »
Crap! You gotta change the oil in these things? ;D

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The REAL question is which oil?    >:D

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