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Offline arjay2

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« on: October 20, 2008, 06:49:00 pm »
I checked my oil level after bike had been sitting a week and level was in the middle of upper & lower marks - OK. After riding bike and checking level next day appears level is above upper mark. The sight glass is completely blacked out - this would indicate overfull. Has anyone else experienced this problem?  
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 08:20:00 pm »
I have. But the next time I would park it the oil level might be in the middle of the glass. I think it might be the position of the crank when the engine is shut off.  

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 08:32:00 pm »
Mine changes too. The position of the crank sounds like a reasonable explanation.  

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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 10:19:00 am »
There is no good explanation.  It is just weird.  I can center stand the bike with it running and switch it off.  You come back 15 minutes later and look and the level is right in the middle of the site.  If you check the next morning it is below the site window.  Where does it go?  Good news is its not that critical.  A little high a little low is not that big a deal.  I set mine to correct level 15 minutes after being run and ignore what it does the rest of the time.  ----------------------------------  I will answer any question.  It is up to you to figure out if I should have.    <p align="left">My Photos<br
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 10:19:00 am »
The proper way to check the oil is to warm the bike up to running temp then shut her down. With the bike on the center stand check the sight glass about 5 ~ 15 minutes later. The oil should be between the lines on the sight glass.   A flash light can help you when looking at/through the sight glass.   I too have experienced the FULL look after sitting all day or night. (Which is normal)    Yuma,    Summer in Yuma is not hell, but hell is a local call :-)  2006 Connie http://community.webshots.com/user/Lateck?vhost=community  
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 01:06:00 pm »
I've long since given up on the sight glass, I just pre-measure the oil when I do a change and be done with it.  
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 09:48:00 pm »
If in doubt its better to have it at the top of the glass than middle or bottom.    I have read reports of oil pooling in the head in the valve train when breaking from high speed that can end up causing the oil pump to scavage for oil (oil pressure light will flicker) one of the first journals to run dry is the #3 crank and that can cause excessive wear, which is what I found on inCOGnito when I rebuilt her.    Bottom line better to have a bit more than less, if you over fill it will simply shoot oil into your air box (not a pretty sight and very messy)    My method is to change the oil on the center stand, fill up to the top of the window fire her up for 2 mins to warm up a little to make sure the oil filter and oil-ways are full, then simply top off slowly to the top of the site glass and "Bob's your Uncle" :)    CP      Colin Prior  Cogmos Committee Chairman  Lake Forest Park WA  COG#7767  
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 05:33:00 pm »
Yeah, forget the sight glass.... it's "useless"...  Just change the oil.. 3 1/2 quarts of new oil (with filter), and change it again after 3000 miles.  
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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 01:01:00 am »
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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 09:54:00 am »
 
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 Oil?  This thing takes oil???  
    What kind of oil?? :eg:  CT AAD  COG #7011-A  2003 Concours-Mary Ann  1995 Honda Nighthawk 750 wifes  

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 11:24:00 am »
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I have read reports of oil pooling in the head in the valve train when breaking from high speed that can end up causing the oil pump to scavage for oil (oil pressure light will flicker) one of the first journals to run dry is the #3 crank and that can cause excessive wear, which is what I found on inCOGnito when I rebuilt her.
   This happens to me whenever I have to emergency brake and it doesn't flash it's on steady for a good second or two. You really have to be biting the rotors from speed to make it happen though. Probably 3 times since I got her it's happened, once for real, twice for practice.      
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   Canola, Olive, Sunflower any of the standard oils will do. Peanut smells the best though.    
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 12:23:00 pm »
I'm certain that the area directly behind the sight glass is very low volume.  A little bit one way or another can change the sight glass reading a lot.    I figure as long as I can see the oil line somewhere in the sight window, I'm OK.  If you see solid with no line, it means too much oil.  if you see silver with no line, you don't have enough.    Doesn't take much to get it back up or down to the glass.  Just add as needed and if too much, I suppose you could use a turkey baster with a tube and suction a bit out of through the oil fill hole if needed.  
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 09:24:00 pm »
Extra virgin olive oil is the best    1990 Aint she a pretty Tomato (the bike ofcourse)  wedshots albums   http://community.webshots.com/user/sawfiler64/albums/most-recent
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2008, 11:57:00 am »
I warm Pearl up and put her on the side stand to cool down.  I then place her on the center stand to check the level.  I don't know if that is the correct way but it seems to stay consistent that way.  Respectfully Yours!  Wess Heavner  COG #8010 CDA #0239  
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