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Removing Rear Wheel
« on: January 20, 2018, 03:17:15 am »
Hi all,
I've never taken the rear wheel off of a normal shaft-driven bike, I don't think.  My RT-P had a quick-change tire feature.  Can anyone point me to a good video of this? 
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2018, 11:07:39 am »
Dont recall one that is C10 specific But its pretty straight forward
Bike on Cstand
Get brake caliper out of the way
remove axel
slide wheel out of rear chunk
slide wheel out from under fender
*some find it easier to remove the rear chunk +you can lube the drive shaft while you have it off
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 11:15:35 am »
In addition to the above, you either need to remove the exhaust cans or remove rear shock link to be able to slide the axle out.

Be mindful of the exhaust gaskets where front of cans insert over header.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 12:16:33 pm »
In addition to the above, you either need to remove the exhaust cans or remove rear shock link to be able to slide the axle out.

Be mindful of the exhaust gaskets where front of cans insert over header.
I never had to do this. Are you talking about a stock C-14?
He's talking about a C10.  Someone on another forum commented on how hard it was to pull the rear wheel from a C10 and wouldn't ever want to tackle that again.  Wow!  Pulling the mufflers is incredibly easy and makes it much easier to pull and replace the rear wheel.  It's 2 bolts on each side to get the mufflers off. 

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2018, 12:21:06 pm »
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Pulling the mufflers is incredibly easy and makes it much easier to pull and replace the rear wheel.  It's 2 bolts on each side to get the mufflers off. 

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2018, 12:25:31 pm »
In addition to the above, you either need to remove the exhaust cans or remove rear shock link to be able to slide the axle out.

Be mindful of the exhaust gaskets where front of cans insert over header.
I never had to do this. Are you talking about a stock C-14?
He's talking about a C10.  Someone on another forum commented on how hard it was to pull the rear wheel from a C10 and wouldn't ever want to tackle that again.  Wow!  Pulling the mufflers is incredibly easy and makes it much easier to pull and replace the rear wheel.  It's 2 bolts on each side to get the mufflers off.
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2018, 03:22:07 pm »
I lift to rear of the bike with  the engine hoist so I don't have to remove anything to get the tire out. :great:
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2018, 04:05:22 pm »
A little extra height helps get the wheel out from under the fender.
   Lean the bike to the side and have someone put a board under the stand, then lean the bike to the other side and
     repeat the process.

On Who Me's post I think you need to add,,,,
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Bike on Cstand {see board trick above}
Remove muffler.
partially remove axle.
remove wheel spacer.
Get brake caliper out of the way (unbolt draglink and allow caliper mount to slide down)
remove axel
slide wheel out of rear chunk (slide wheel to the right)
slide wheel out from under fender
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2018, 07:54:29 pm »
In addition to the above, you either need to remove the exhaust cans or remove rear shock link to be able to slide the axle out.

Be mindful of the exhaust gaskets where front of cans insert over header.
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2018, 10:54:43 pm »
Having removed the rear tire from my shaft drive Yamaha Vision (now long gone) many times, I figured the Connie won't be any worse, HA! I tried to remove the wheel from my 2000 C10.  Let me tell you it never happened!  The mufflers..at least mine anyway...DO NOT just come off.  Yeah, there are the two bolts, one snapped off, other came off,  but the gasket has been through many many many hot and cold cycles.  It is basically now welded together.  I tried my best but when it got to the point where I most likely going to tip that 700 lb bike off the center stand I gave up.  Yeah, burns me to pay the shop to take it off and change the tire and I know they don't take the muffler off but I have learned to grin and bear it!

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2018, 12:00:16 am »
A little extra height helps get the wheel out from under the fender.
   Lean the bike to the side and have someone put a board under the stand, then lean the bike to the other side and
     repeat the process.

On Who Me's post I think you need to add,,,,
  NOTE: This is from memory and my memory sux..

Bike on Cstand {see board trick above}
Remove muffler.
partially remove axle.
remove wheel spacer.
Get brake caliper out of the way (unbolt draglink and allow caliper mount to slide down)
remove axel
slide wheel out of rear chunk (slide wheel to the right)
slide wheel out from under fender

Board trick works. Learned it here, use it each time!  :great:

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2018, 12:37:45 am »
Having removed the rear tire from my shaft drive Yamaha Vision (now long gone) many times, I figured the Connie won't be any worse, HA! I tried to remove the wheel from my 2000 C10.  Let me tell you it never happened!  The mufflers..at least mine anyway...DO NOT just come off.  Yeah, there are the two bolts, one snapped off, other came off,  but the gasket has been through many many many hot and cold cycles.  It is basically now welded together.  I tried my best but when it got to the point where I most likely going to tip that 700 lb bike off the center stand I gave up.  Yeah, burns me to pay the shop to take it off and change the tire and I know they don't take the muffler off but I have learned to grin and bear it!

That's my story, wish you the best of luck!

If the mufflers don't come off easily, you can remove a shock bolt from the suspension rocker and lower the rear wheel.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2018, 04:05:19 am »
For that to work Ted how high does the bike need to be off the ground?  How unsafe a situation do we start having if your thinking this can be done just putting the center stand up on some wooden blocks.   As I remember on my Vision you also do some wiggling and some shaking getting the wheel off the drive shaft gears and fun again putting it back on and getting the gears to mesh. But maybe the Connie gives you no such problems.  Well guess I should keep quiet as some of you have apparently successfully taken the rear wheel on and off at home on this bike (anyone take pictures?). I almost knocked my bike off the center stand trying to get that dang muffler to separate from the header pipe-to this day I have never bothered to replace the broken pinch bolt, they aren't separating.     


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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2018, 05:48:00 am »
I have never had to take the muffler(s) off my 86 to remove the rear wheel.  Even before i put the 1400 series shock on.  Now it is just easier.

I find that the axel _just_ misses the bottom of the left muffler when I pull it out.

I increase centre stand height with one 2x4 stud piece.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2018, 01:16:09 pm »
If you strap the center stand to the front wheel, you'll greatly reduce the 'danger' of the centerstand folding back up, which
Is probably top on the instability list.  Breaking all the bolts before the bike goes on the blocks will reduce the poo factor too.

As with any job, the guy turning the wrench has to evaluate the safety, and have the good sense to stop before it gets dangerous.

Cutting the rear fender is another way to increase that clearance to get the rear tire out.
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2018, 03:42:56 pm »
I do it the easy simple way. There are 4 bolts holding the final drive on.   Keep the rear tire/wheel mated to  the final drive.
Now when you pull the axle out the wheel and final drive roll  both out as one unit. No need to jack the back up higher to clear the rear fender or to clear anything else.  You get tons of extra room this way.
It is by far the easiest way plus your supposed to lube the  spline  so you need to remove the final drive anyway. Keep an eye out and check the O ring that is in there too.
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2018, 07:28:25 pm »
I do it the easy simple way. There are 4 bolts holding the final drive on.   Keep the rear tire/wheel mated to  the final drive.
Now when you pull the axle out the wheel and final drive roll  both out as one unit. No need to jack the back up higher to clear the rear fender or to clear anything else.  You get tons of extra room this way.
It is by far the easiest way plus your supposed to lube the  spline  so you need to remove the final drive anyway. Keep an eye out and check the O ring that is in there too.
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2018, 08:18:13 pm »
Once you pull the final drive and wheel, just pull the axle and the wheel and final drive should separate easily.  They need to be separated anyway so that you can lube the splines on the wheel and final drive.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2018, 06:08:34 pm »
Final drive needs to be removed to find out why it not coming off easily.
Plus, tire can't be mounted with Final drive on it.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 01:30:41 pm »
Back wheel came off pretty easily!  Took both exhausts off with zero problem.  Removed brake caliper, hammered the axle out of there (after removing cotter pin and searching all over for a 27mm socket).  Had some Honda moly 60 grease lying around so I lubed the splines in the final drive while I was at it and drained the final drive oil. 

Bike is on a 2x4 on the center stand.  I meant to strap the stand to the front tire and forgot.  Will probably go do that before I put stuff back on. 

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2018, 04:11:44 pm »
 

Bike is on a 2x4 on the center stand.  I meant to strap the stand to the front tire and forgot.  Will probably go do that before I put stuff back on. 

Thanks all.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 04:40:31 pm »
...and drained the final drive oil. 


Do yourself a favor and search the forum for threads on re-filling the final drive.   Might save yourself some aggravation.  :great:
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 11:48:52 pm »
Is there a way to use a jack like this to lift a C10?  Jack by cityplan_2000, on Flickr
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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2018, 11:59:02 pm »
The only use I would have for that would be to lift the front wheel.  The exhaust can handle that.  I don't think the exhaust can handle the entire weight of the bike when being lifted with that kind of jack.  If you could make adapters to contact the frame, then I might be ok with that if done properly.

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Re: Removing Rear Wheel
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2018, 03:58:59 am »
...and drained the final drive oil. 


Do yourself a favor and search the forum for threads on re-filling the final drive.   Might save yourself some aggravation.  :great:

Isn't it just funneling oil into the big hole until it's almost coming out?  I think that's what the manual says.  Correct me if I'm wrong...I'm used to it; I'm married. 
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