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Title: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Locomotiveman on July 20, 2017, 09:14:21 pm
Saddlebags' Sideloader Style seemed iffy. Here was MY solution... Cable supports. Considered painting the ferrules Black, but I kinda like the 'Industrial' Aluminum look. Locomotiveman
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Wizeguy on July 20, 2017, 09:19:43 pm
I'm curious, do you plan to do anything to prevent moisture from entering those holes?  Take it from someone in Seattle, moisture will find a way.
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Locomotiveman on July 21, 2017, 12:38:14 am
The bags' inherent leakiness from horizontal top closure lip is FAR worse than any hard Toploaders I've owned; ie H-D's Honda's. Touch of black whatever Goo maybe in order however. Considered  Pop-rivets for that reason, but...
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on July 21, 2017, 04:21:52 am
That 3/16" plastic coated cable will outlast the bike.... a bit overkill... :rotflmao:  I mean, the lid weighs what, half a pound?

Simple tethers made from weedeater cord, with a 12 awg ring lug crimped on both ends, and pop rivets with washers, sealed with rtv during assembly would suffice, and seal...

Now go back and run your ground wires for those driving lights tied together, to a beneficial frame ground... you're making me crazy thinking about that....
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Derick on July 21, 2017, 12:07:20 pm
I mean, I appreciate over-engineering....but why go this route instead of reusing the nylon?

I did something similar when the rivets popped on my 06, but I just drilled the hole where the rivet lived, and used bolts and washers to secure the nylon bit. It's not removable like it was originally, but neither is yours.
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: coffee_brake on July 21, 2017, 12:14:56 pm
I think it looks great!
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Thud300 on July 21, 2017, 01:32:26 pm
Shoulda found some lift struts like a Goldwing. Now that would be overkill  :rotflmao: ;D
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: mqqn on July 21, 2017, 01:58:17 pm
Nice, clean install.

Thanks for the pictures.

best

mqqn
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Locomotiveman on July 23, 2017, 01:39:02 pm
Seen 'Bubba lid holders' hold 20/lbs of Harbor Freight junk...until they broke. Coated WIRE rope was free, and their nearly 90/degree angle of purchase avoids torqueing of hard attachment points against the PLASTIC lids, unlike pop-rivets. Til they make it back from Guatemala intact..I'll give em' a C+   
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: WillyP on July 23, 2017, 02:06:06 pm
Free, that's for me!

 :))
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: alan on July 23, 2017, 03:39:25 pm
Wait, wait, go back up here.....  What "inherent leakiness" in the bag closure?  Mine never leaked, although I never rode 100mph for 3 days in a blasting rain storm (exaggeration, but I do live on the west coast of Canada), I still squirted 'em with a water hose to see if they did leak. Dry. Well of course the supports are over engineered. Have you ever seen anything built light duty on a locomotive?    :-[    :great:
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: connie_rider on July 23, 2017, 05:05:16 pm
I think your cables will work fine.
  But I question your note about the C-10 bags leaking.
     I've had 3 C-10s, and I never found mine to leak.

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Locomotiveman on July 24, 2017, 01:49:44 pm
My Right bag is damp inside after a coupla hours in rain. Garden hose test sez it's down at the 'bend' along the front edge, it doesn't quite pinch tight enough. My Cable stays have rubber 'Moisture seals', however. Cuppa Coffee along the road to the first person to identify them. (Any farm kids out there)?
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Wizeguy on July 24, 2017, 01:53:20 pm
Bands for an emasculatome.  Ouch.  :-\
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Locomotiveman on July 24, 2017, 04:06:04 pm
Yep. I owe ya. I've had bad dreams about those things...
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: connie_rider on July 24, 2017, 04:34:23 pm
Just realized what your talking about.   Arghh,,,,,,    :-\

Ride safe, Ted
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: jettawreck on July 25, 2017, 12:44:08 am
Bands for an emasculatome.  Ouch.  :-\

Kinda curious as to why you had those bands laying around handy, Tom.
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Bob_C_CT on July 25, 2017, 12:35:54 pm
You can tweak the clasp on the receiving end that the lock part pulls on to close the cases together, so that you have a tighter seal. I had a leak and was going to replace the entire rubber seal until I found this easy fix form a COG poster. When your bags are locked see if you can push the outer clam shell towards the inner, if there is any movement you can use a needle nose plier to "push" the inner clam shell clasp away from the outer clam shell for a tighter fit. Adjust a little at a time until you have it right.
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Locomotiveman on July 25, 2017, 05:52:21 pm
You can tweak the clasp on the receiving end that the lock part pulls on to close the cases together, so that you have a tighter seal. I had a leak and was going to replace the entire rubber seal until I found this easy fix form a COG poster. When your bags are locked see if you can push the outer clam shell towards the inner, if there is any movement you can use a needle nose plier to "push" the inner clam shell clasp away from the outer clam shell for a tighter fit. Adjust a little at a time until you have it right.
Yes..good idea. 1/mm tighter would be better. There IS a tad of sealant Goo (clear, silicone??) around the outer rim of the case's metal framing..not the seal per se; and some in/around the lower hinge points. Sumbuddy was chasing leaks.....  BTW, I Dremelled down the cable ferrules ends...so no scratchy-scratchy.
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Sport Rider on July 25, 2017, 06:21:42 pm
at one time, was the case perhaps forced closed while something was caught in the bottom seal?  I suspect those hinges at the bottom are bent and that's why you are not getting good seal.  like others, mine have never leaked on me.

as for the cables, I vote overkill, but at the same time, free is always good.   :great:
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Bergmen on July 25, 2017, 10:04:07 pm
Shoulda found some lift struts like a Goldwing. Now that would be overkill  :rotflmao: ;D


Like these?

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Motorcycling/Saddlebag%20Lid%20Dampers/th_MVI_0120_zpsaac65304.mp4) (http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Motorcycling/Saddlebag%20Lid%20Dampers/MVI_0120_zpsaac65304.mp4)

Dan
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Wizeguy on July 25, 2017, 10:27:33 pm
Shoulda found some lift struts like a Goldwing. Now that would be overkill  :rotflmao: ;D


Like these?

([url]http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Motorcycling/Saddlebag%20Lid%20Dampers/th_MVI_0120_zpsaac65304.mp4[/url]) ([url]http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u580/Bergmen/Motorcycling/Saddlebag%20Lid%20Dampers/MVI_0120_zpsaac65304.mp4[/url])

Dan

LOL!!!  I just finally saw your old girl on Saturday.  Had I known you did that to the bags, I would've asked Dan to show them to me!  Overkill yes, but cool.  :great:
Title: Re: Saddlebags Cable Stays. Done.
Post by: Bergmen on July 25, 2017, 10:39:05 pm
LOL!!!  I just finally saw your old girl on Saturday.  Had I known you did that to the bags, I would've asked Dan to show them to me!  Overkill yes, but cool.  :great:

Boy, I have to tell you these were a stinkin' royal PITA to install. The geometry and mounting was a real challenge but I got them to work very well. I made the mounts so one end could be quick disconnected in order for the bags to lay flat. I got them working just fine, then sold the bike to the other Dan before I got to enjoy them much.

Dan