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ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« on: May 25, 2016, 01:41:42 pm »
Has anyone removed the plastic below the upper fairing that holds the windshield and kept it that way (have seen pictures, would like some advice on how to make it work)?

The plan is just to ride it with the top fairing on for a couple weeks to make sure that's what I want and make no other changes unless there is safety involved.   I realize that the lower fairing gives leg protection, but, the Concours is my first bike with a fairing.  I am looking forward to riding without the lowers (and keeping the windshield since I don't like being a "sail" on the highway).

1) Were there any aerodynamic changes to the bike I need to make to keep it stable at speed?

2) What adjustments / additions have folks done to the top fairing to make the edge look presentable? Did you cover over the edge of the fairing or just leave it?

3) What will this leave exposed that needs to be rerouted (if anything)?

4) What else do I need to know?

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 02:03:14 pm »
Taking the Tupperware off is called "going naked".  Do a forum search on "Naked Connie" and you'll find a whole bunch of threads, including pictures, descriptions of actions taken, etc.   One cautionary note..  Make sure you do that search in here, and not on Google.  The results are dramatically different!   ;D
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 04:17:49 pm »
My bike is semi-naked.  I removed the lower plastic and belly pan.  You really don't need to do anything to ride with the lowers off, but I would remove the inner panels, (the one with the pockets) because they will not have any lower support.  Those of us who are running without the lowers have trimmed those pieces.

There is some heat ducts on both sides of the engine.  You should be able to run with them in place but give them a shake, if they seem loose, then it is only a couple of screws to remove them.

Many have done away with the cross bar that goes under the carbs.  I still use it on mine, but my understanding it really doesn't make a difference.
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 05:46:53 pm »
I'm going to remove my mids and belly pan as well.  I have it apart now with carbs going to SISF in a day or two.  I plan to fabricate some type of trim piece o fit along the bottom of the upper fairing.  I have removed the lower duct pieces as well as the bracket that goes under the motor.

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 06:54:24 pm »
you are going to want to relocate the coolant reservoir to a safe area, do a search on this, I wrote some stuff years ago about locating the stock one behind the battery, doesn't cost anything....

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 07:46:04 pm »
^^^^^

 :goodpost:

I just did mine last night.  there's plenty of space behind the battery for the stock reservoir and plenty of tubing to make the run down the backbone to it.   :great:

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 11:31:23 pm »
SISF moved the coolant overflow behind the battery 3 years ago when he prepped the bike (carbs, 7th gear, cams, etc.) for my cross country trip. Seems like this is a pretty simple change (plug off, no plug on). Guess I will stick the plastics and other parts on eBay - maybe it will be a money maker, too. Thanks for the input.

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2016, 03:26:01 am »
SISF moved the coolant overflow behind the battery 3 years ago when he prepped the bike (carbs, 7th gear, cams, etc.) for my cross country trip. Seems like this is a pretty simple change (plug off, no plug on). Guess I will stick the plastics and other parts on eBay - maybe it will be a money maker, too. Thanks for the input.


Lucky to get the SISF special treatment, those are some nice upgrades, especially before a trip.

In terms of the lower fairings, you will love how it opens the bike up. I don't have any of the inner fairing trim pieces, and like it. I finally got around to making a trim piece for the fairing joint, with some strips of black acrylic.



Save your lower fairing pieces, you may decide you want them for a long trip. Riding in the rain with just the upper fairing provides good protection, your knees get a little wet but receive some cover from the engine/radiator girth. Boots/pant cuffs will get pretty wet, but that happens anyway.
IMO the bike sheds radiant heat better, and you feel cool faster once you get moving in traffic. In very cold weather you may get cold knees, but only in the lower temps, a pair of rain pants works great as a wind breaker.
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2016, 10:05:40 pm »
I want to do this mod in the winter. Looks great.
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2016, 10:15:10 pm »
You don't have to wait until winter.  It takes a short time to remove the lowers and the ducts under them.  I rode with the coolant tank exposed for a few months before I got around to moving it, and that only took an hour or so. Doing it now gives you some time to see if like it that way. 
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2016, 02:03:01 pm »
I ran mine without the lower fairings for seven years or so:



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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2016, 12:22:57 pm »
Where did you get the black strip? Is it ABS or another material?

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2016, 12:46:10 pm »
Is this for airflow, looks, or both?
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2016, 01:34:45 pm »
Both preferably, but, looks is the fall back.

Has anyone put any Air Wings (or the equivalent) on the front forks to guide the cold air away from the knees?

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2016, 02:13:48 pm »
Where did you get the black strip? Is it ABS or another material?

In my case, I formed the lower trim strips from strips of aluminum and painted them black.

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2016, 02:20:08 pm »
Is this for airflow, looks, or both?

For me it was a few things. One, I had just completed an engine conversion to the ZRX1200 engine and I wanted to keep an eye on things for a while. Secondly, ease of access to things like oil drain and filter was a plus. Also, the ZRX engine was designed to be admired and I think it enhances the look of the motorcycle.

It did result in more heat flowing into the cockpit (worse in warmer weather). But it was not focused but a general incursion. Some may not like it, it didn't bother me much.

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2016, 02:26:44 pm »
I used some scrap pieces of black Acrylic to use as a trim piece, you could get it for pretty cheap from supply stores. In terms of heat, I think that you can feel the engine heat more intensely in some situations with no lower fairings and no air ducts, I also think that once you get moving again the bike sheds heat more effectively. You also get much needed airflow past your legs in the hot weather.
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2016, 02:43:25 pm »
I used some scrap pieces of black Acrylic to use as a trim piece, you could get it for pretty cheap from supply stores. In terms of heat, I think that you can feel the engine heat more intensely in some situations with no lower fairings and no air ducts, I also think that once you get moving again the bike sheds heat more effectively. You also get much needed airflow past your legs in the hot weather.

Yeah, I agree. Overall I liked the lower fairings removed, the upper fairing providing good wind/bug/rain protection.

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2016, 02:52:08 pm »
Thanks for clarifying guys.  I do like the look, and the easier access was kind of why I was asking when I saw the pic...added benefit. :great:

Probably a silly question, but I'm assuming this is only an option on 10s, since the 14 fairings are a lot more integrated (and the engine, although nice and big, is not as pretty as the ZXR  ::)).?
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2016, 03:19:54 pm »
I used some scrap pieces of black Acrylic to use as a trim piece, you could get it for pretty cheap from supply stores. In terms of heat, I think that you can feel the engine heat more intensely in some situations with no lower fairings and no air ducts, I also think that once you get moving again the bike sheds heat more effectively. You also get much needed airflow past your legs in the hot weather.

BTW, your bike looks pretty sharp. Good work.

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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2016, 05:10:24 pm »
I used some scrap pieces of black Acrylic to use as a trim piece, you could get it for pretty cheap from supply stores. In terms of heat, I think that you can feel the engine heat more intensely in some situations with no lower fairings and no air ducts, I also think that once you get moving again the bike sheds heat more effectively. You also get much needed airflow past your legs in the hot weather.

BTW, your bike looks pretty sharp. Good work.

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Thanks, she's really coming together. And although I have my lower fairing panels, I just love the C10 engine too much to cover her up.
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Re: ZG1000 Leaving Only Top Fairing - What Do I Need To Know?
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2016, 05:23:44 pm »
I also liked mine better after talking off the lowers.

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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 05:30:25 pm »
What kind of saddle bag is that? Looks huge.

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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2016, 05:35:33 pm »
What kind of saddle bag is that? Looks huge.

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