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ZZR alternator upgrade
« on: May 14, 2017, 01:19:07 am »
Ive got the alternator Now I feel like the dog that has caught the car
Ordered a 50 amp relay and delivery is holding up the start of this project it is a 5 pin with an unused 87a pin for this upgrade
I found a 4 pin without an 87a  pin local. My question is can I use the 4 pin Im thinking (which is dangerous) I should be OK

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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 01:36:52 am »
you should be able to use the 4 prong relay without any problem

http://www.delp.net/Concours/index.html   if you don't have them already here is some instructions for your install :)

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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 01:48:17 am »
you should be able to use the 4 prong relay without any problem

http://www.delp.net/Concours/index.html   if you don't have them already here is some instructions for your install :)

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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2017, 12:38:33 am »
Started figuring out where main fuse and relay are going to go I stuck the alternator in and the new bolts are short bought 65mm and that goes just thru the alternator No threads to attach it to the motor Broke out the tape measure and it came to 3 1/4 in (82mm)to the far end of the threaded hole Off to the bolt store tomorrow after work  again >:(
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2017, 10:21:12 pm »
Final notes for this
Brock Delps webpage<http://www.delp.net/Concours/> is the go by I used, wiring diagram and the how to easy to follow
Get 80mm bolts for the alternator
Brown wire to the wiring harness There isnt a lot of extra to play with
I used the battery for my ground (connected with the free power mod)


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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2017, 12:38:46 am »
Just wondering, why the upgrade?
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 01:16:15 am »
Just wondering, why the upgrade?

More juice!  It increases the amps to where you can safely run more accessories, like heated clothing or lights, without worrying about running down your battery.
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2017, 01:35:12 am »
Just wondering, why the upgrade?
Im eventually adding my ongoing sidecar project to this bike. I think Im at or close to max with the extra lights and one electric jacket. SWMBO has indicated she would be willing to ride with me So she will need her own E vest/jacket (I love her but I aint giving her my gerbings gear)
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2017, 10:40:03 am »
Will the increase in amps be bad for the battery or stock system? Should you do this upgrade if you don't plan on putting on more than one set of lights and a USB port?
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2017, 10:58:58 am »
No Rico, the regulator will keep things here they need to be just like the stock unit.  Sort of like having a larger AC unit on your house than you need.  The t-stat will keep the temp where you want it despite increased capacity.
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2017, 02:53:18 pm »
Will the increase in amps be bad for the battery or stock system? Should you do this upgrade if you don't plan on putting on more than one set of lights and a USB port?
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Ive already got lights,acc port, 2 usb ports,and electric vest.  With the SC Ill be adding another light up front to match the two already on the bike, rear running/brake/turn signal lights, SWMBO wants a radio and her on USB port and electric vest/jacket
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2017, 09:18:53 pm »
No Rico, the regulator will keep things here they need to be just like the stock unit.  Sort of like having a larger AC unit on your house than you need.  The t-stat will keep the temp where you want it despite increased capacity.

No, no no!, Don't ever put a bigger AC on your house than its required. It will shut on and off faster than supposed to, never working to capacity and wasting money. LOL, but not a joke.
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2017, 11:34:57 pm »
Just like the alternator, you want to size your AC big enough to provide adequate cooling on the hottest days,  Then let the thermostat cycle the system as needed for days that aren't as hot.

In the same way, you need a big enough alternator to carry the highest electrical load you intend to put on it, then let the regulator control the output when the load is less than that.  In reality the electronic regulator adjusts the big alternator's output to just match whatever load is present, it's actually better than the thermostat on your AC since the thermostat is just an ON - OFF switch.

It is possible to set up an AC system to exactly match the demand, but it's way too expensive.  A simple on - off thermostat is good enough, even though the system is less efficient.
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Re: ZZR alternator upgrade
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2017, 01:01:42 pm »
Thermostat / Regulator...
Probably not the best analogy I ever set up.  My intent was not to create an AC thread.  But I love my big AC unit.  I can get my house down to 60*F on a 100*F day if I want... but right now (and most of the time these days) it's set to 83*.  My electric bill is much less (less than half) than with the smaller system.
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