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Offline Fred_Harmon_TX

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Valve adjustment costs
« on: April 18, 2013, 07:04:12 AM »
Just curious, those of you that have taken your bike in to a dealer and had the valves adjusted on it, what are the dealerships charging you to do this service?

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2013, 07:19:36 AM »
I am curious too. Fred, what do you think the charge should be considering doing the job right?
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2013, 07:51:15 AM »
$320
I had removed all of the plastic before i took the bike to the dealer
this was just to check the valves and replaced the plugs (plug cost was extra)
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2013, 07:55:09 AM »
One of the big moto dealers in Silicon Valley quoted me ~$700 for the valve adjust. This included new gaskets for the valve cover and pulser cover. Did not include any needed shims or plugs.

I just did it for ~$150 in parts.
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2013, 08:30:05 AM »
my service cost me $500 for both the 15K and 30K and they made no adjustments and I just dropped it off without taking anything off or any prep.  Was a large dealer here in so. cal.

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 08:51:33 AM »
I am curious too. Fred, what do you think the charge should be considering doing the job right?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. I know its a huge job, and I suspect the actual hourly rate would be outrageous if they charge the actual time it takes to do the job.

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 08:53:15 AM »
my service cost me $500 for both the 15K and 30K and they made no adjustments and I just dropped it off without taking anything off or any prep.  Was a large dealer here in so. cal.

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So they charged you $500 and didn't even pull the cams or change any shims, correct?

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 09:55:06 AM »
Razee charged me $499 for the 30k service including checking the valves,  if they had to pull the cams it was an extra 90 bucks plus whatever shims they couldn't swap around...
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 11:58:45 AM »
my local dealership quoted me $800 not including shims.

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2013, 12:09:07 PM »
I was quoted $600 for a check, adjustment would be done on hourly + parts rate. 

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 12:30:45 PM »
Kawasaki lists the labor quantity for checking the lash on a C-14 at 3.2 hours. Yep, that is Earth hours, not Jupiter hours. My local dealer doubles that time and still can't make it although it is not a loser (below theoretical hourly rate but not actually losing money). The local dealer's rate is $75 / hour so that would be $480 at 6.4 hours not including materials used. They actually charge $500 as Marc said and another $90 if the cams have to be removed to actually change shims. So the job is profitable although not really generating the shop rate, just like most service jobs. Then again, it is more profitable to do larger jobs and sell labor in larger chunks; it is better for them to sell 6 hours of labor than it would be to sell 12 units of 1/2 hour labor at a time. There is just no way to get 16 units of 1/2 hour of labor into an 8 hour day- it would seem that it should work that way but it does not because of inefficiency moving between jobs, consulting a manual perhaps, procuring materials and parts, etc., etc. So on a larger job the service dept. will get closer to the actual stated labor rate than on a lot more small jobs.

The down side to the larger jobs is that it takes more skilled help to do those jobs just because they are more involved and require more knowledge and skill on the part of the technician. Not a problem for a competent, quality dealer but that is where the 'fly by night' dealers get into trouble.

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That's what I'm trying to figure out. I know its a huge job, and I suspect the actual hourly rate would be outrageous if they charge the actual time it takes to do the job.
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 02:48:10 PM »
Fred

yup, $500 and no adjustments but that was for the entire 15K/30K service with the bike just being dropped off. No work on my part.

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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 04:04:42 PM »
Fred, I sense you have something up your sleeve.  ;) Are you going to be offering your services here in the near future  :great:
 
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 04:26:33 PM »
Fred, I sense you have something up your sleeve.  ;) Are you going to be offering your services here in the near future  :great:
 
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Re: Valve adjustment costs
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 04:46:25 PM »
Theres a shop by me I went to for a wheel bearing. (to purchase) They tried to sell me a used bearing as new. I would let them work on my lawn mower - maybe for free. If I were rich I would have to find a shop I could trust 1st and cost 2nd.