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Offline MarkP.

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« on: September 18, 2019, 02:38:08 pm »
Hi, Mark here,

I am new to this forum but NOT new to motorcycling. I have been riding since 1977 and have ridden all kinds of bikes, Hondas, Kawasakis, BMWs and Harleys. I prefer touring long distances and daily commuting. My current ride is a 2006 Harley CVO Ultra with over 100,000 miles on it.

I looking to buy a Concours 14 within the next year. As I do with all my bikes, I am trying to research what are the good years, the good options, and what to look for when choosing a used bike.

Are some years better than others?
Are some more prone to leaking fluids?
What is the average cost of a dealer service and valve adjustment?
Are some more prone to overheating?
What are the high maintenance parts that frequently need attention, repair or replacement?
Do they need an fuel injection flash or tune? If so, how can I verify it's been done?

The usual stuff a buyer would look for.

Thanks, and I appreciate any input and feedback.

Mark

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Re: New Member.
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2019, 03:08:01 pm »
Welcome, Mark.

Where in the SW are you located?

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Re: New Member.
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2019, 03:10:11 pm »
Welcome, Mark.
Where in the SW are you located?
Leo

Leo, I live in Southern California, but am temporarily in Northern California for work.

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Re: New Member.
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2019, 03:42:06 pm »
Welcome MarkP.

I'll take a stab at answering some of your questions. (opinions will vary greatly)

Are some years better than others?
  I think the best C-14'as are post 2015.
     (the ABS is more refined/lower 1st gear/vented windshield/less heat to rider)

Are some more prone to leaking fluids?
The only persistent leak I'm aware of is an O-ring/coolant leak near the front of the engine.
    (Not normally a big issue. new O-ring fixes it).

What is the average cost of a dealer service and valve adjustment?
    Valve adjustment is a PITA but is do-able.
        (Dealer cost may be near $1000)

Are some more prone to overheating?
    Some have more rider heat, but not aware of any years that are prone to overheating.
What are the high maintenance parts that frequently need attention, repair or replacement?
    Tires!!  (Your riding style will effect this greatly)
Do they need an fuel injection flash or tune? If so, how can I verify it's been done?
      As a Harley owner you'll; really notice the difference in Torque.
         Many prefer to have the ECU reflashed to improve power delivery.
          (The ECU is marked on the bottom by the Supplier when it is reflashed).
      As a Harley owner you'll; really notice the difference in acceleration.
          (See high maintenance costs for better understanding of this). 
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Re: New Member.
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2019, 03:56:59 pm »
Welcome MarkP.

I'll take a stab at answering some of your questions. (opinions will vary greatly)
  I think the best C-14'as are post 2015.
     (the ABS is more refined/lower 1st gear/vented windshield/less heat to rider)

The only persistent leak I'm aware of is an O-ring/coolant leak near the front of the engine. (Not normally a big issue. new O-ring fixes it).
    Valve adjustment is a PITA but is do-able. (Dealer cost may be near $1000)
    Some have more rider heat, but not aware of any years that are prone to overheating.
    Tires!!  (Your riding style will effect this greatly)
As a Harley owner you'll; really notice the difference in Torque.
Many prefer to have the ECU reflashed to improve power delivery.
(The ECU is marked on the bottom by the Supplier when it is reflashed).
As a Harley owner you'll; really notice the difference in acceleration.
(See high maintenance costs for better understanding of this). 
:motonoises: :-[ <grin>
Next year, the COGdom will be in your area for our annual National Rally.
Come ride with us, ask questions, and see all the Connie years.... (1986-2020)
I can assure you that you'll enjoy it..

Ride safe, Ted

Ted,

Thanks for the specific input, just what I am looking for.

I was looking at a 2016 or later.
Which ones have more heat, and do they know why?
Tires - not a problem.
Which is the preferred tuning device? In Harley world the TTS Mastertune is preferred.

Really appreciate it.

Mark

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Re: New Member.
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2019, 04:35:28 pm »
I think prior to 2012 2010 there was more heat transferred to the rider.
They modified the insulation/plastic design on later models.

If you live in the North; More heat could be a good thing.
                                     I live in Houston. (E'nuf sed)  :-[

On the Tuning.

I removed my ECU and sent it to Steve at Shoodaben Engineering. (COG Member/Industry Member)
  EZ to do, he sent detailed instruction's on removal/shipping.
   Takes less than a week.
    https://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/home

    https://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/concours1400

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2019, 04:41:23 pm »
I think only the 08 and 09 have the heat getting to rider issue.  My 2010 has all the changes to the baffles and plastics that helped. 
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Re: New Member.
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2019, 12:29:22 am »
 :welcome: MarkP
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Re: New Member.
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2019, 10:44:07 pm »
Welcome mark, I'm gonna do something strange here and correct ted( sorry buddy) but next years cog national is actually in Vancouver washington.  Being from texas, and going to practically every COG event there is, ted thinks everyone should get to every national rally. 

But I will tell u this about ted.......HE'S D MAN!!!    He's  there with a wrench, a trailer and even a cold beer when u need one....and just so your aware theres alot of people in this group that are just like him....

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Re: New Member.
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2019, 03:30:33 am »
Geez, your making me blush.  :truce:
Like you sed, lots of good folks in the COGdom.. (you included)

But, I didn't err. I meant whut I sed..
Being as far away from next years National as I am (in South Texas), Washington State "is" in his area..
ie; Both on the left side of the US of A...

Ride safe, Ted
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