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Hello.

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Been away a while and thought I would stop in, take a peek around and say hello to some old friends. Hello old friends, you know who you are. Many of the same old friends still around, and that is good to see.

Nothing going on regarding riding on our end, up to our necks in a major house project; roof structural failure a couple of years ago on an ancient house and the fix turned out to be removing the second floor (literally, cutting it off and throwing it into a dumpster), some creative engineering (no first- floor bearing walls inside the house..... hmmmmm) and now an entire new structure up there. Currently wiring second floor, with plumbing, heat, A/C to follow along. The roof was completed, including soffits and fascias, last fall so at least it does not rain in the house anymore. None of this is complaining BTW, so not looking for any sympathy, just passing along what it taking up so much of our time at the moment.

Mr. Elkhoof and Kirby are fine and say hello..... well, they are as fine as they ever were, at least since I have know them anyway.

We are still hoping to attend at least one small COG even this summer, perhaps something like a meet 'n greet, if we can squeak out the time.

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Brian,

We've missed you dearly, what an unexpected pleasure!!!! :beerchug:

Glad to hear Kirby is still desiccating along!

House problems really hit home! They can be an enormous drain on time and resources. Sounds like you have a handle on that.

Come around more often and glad to hear you might join up on a ride.

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 :s_hi:

Noooo, not stalking you...
Not even gonna give you a hard time about considering taking in a COG event  ;D I know lots of people in your neck of the woods who would enjoying seeing you (and the Misses).
This is COG online, isn't it nice to know you can come back and visit, still see a friend or 2.... and maybe a few of us idiots too  :D
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Hey Brian!
Good to hear from ya! Been missing you and your posts!

Wow! Sounds like you've been a busy boy with your house...
(Since you know I'm an electrical contractor, all I can say is... "Sounds like a lotta work to me!")
...and money... I bet!

Bad deal when you call a roofer and he tells you the whole upper story's gotta go... wow!
Hope it all goes well, and life gets back to "normal" for you soon.
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Hi Brian! How nice to see you here again. We miss you and Andrea and hope to see you both again soon at an event. Happy to hear Kirby is well but still dead :)
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Brian, we missed you at the last few NE Spring Flings. I somehow think of you every time I fill more than 4.8 gallons of gas (on my terms) without Kawasaki making my display go crazy. One of the best Farkels installed by far.   :beerchug:
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Thanks for the warm welcome and well- wishes.

A few quick responses:

Craig, thanks for the kind words. Kirby actually suffered a little during a little mishap inside the larger mishap ('Inside of every large problem, there is a small problem struggling to get out.'); the entire house was tarped (what with missing the second floor and all, it seemed prudent) and there were some leaks here and there. The one big enough to do damage was over the laundry room, which is where Kirby 'sleeps' (sic) and the entire ceiling and a bunch of water dropped onto the floor.... and Kirby. I dried him off the best I could and I think he is going to be OK (such as Kirby can ever be OK) but it was pretty scary.

The house is weather-tight, including full snow loads, so the big part of the struggle is over. Still, the outside is one layer of ZIP sheathing and no insulation so while workable up there, it is not pleasant when warm out. Doing most of the work ourselves now but plan on farming out some projects: drywall (depending on price), plastering, siding, insulation (walls, I will do the attic myself) but finding decent labor that does not cost a fortune is tough.

It looks like you had a serious COG promotion or demotion.  ;D Congrats, I know you will do well for COG. If I have my areas of COG correct, you have replaced Fred as AAD? And Chuuuuuuck is the new E.D. (Easy Boys!.... he answers to a higher authority just like Hebrew National). Congrats all around and best of luck to you as individuals as well as COG. The only bad news I think is that Fred is no longer an AAD, not to imply anything about you, just that I have a huge amount of respect for Fred and think he would benefit any organization.

Bob, Thanks. Yep, wiring this house is a bit different than most I think; because it is old post and beam construction, and the walls sit directly on what would be the sills, and the first floor is NOT destroyed, I decided to put a second sub- panel on the second floor, power it with 100 amps from the main panel (which will be upgraded from the 100 amp service to a 200 amp service) and wire the entire second floor from.... the second floor. Much easier to wire through the attic than trying to drop lines into the cellar. Been a while since I did this work and while I am wary of those AFI breakers, the new panels and breakers are really very nice (Square D, QD). Going to wire the sub- panel tonight in fact. Expensive, yep. Replacing an entire floor on a house is really quite rare because it does not make economic sense. We are basically stuck in a no- win situation; we are well into six digits so far and not nearly done, and there is absolutely no way we can ever get these additional monies back out of the house. On the other hand, selling the property was not viable (the lot is non- conforming to current code) so it would have been a 100% loss or close to it. Now, that said, as it was a structural failure DUE TO SNOW LOADING, insurance did kick in and while they will not even come close to covering this.... problem, it makes the whole proposition far more palatable. So we kick in a sizeable amount of money but in turn get a bigger, brand- new (well, 2/3 brand new) house, built far beyond code (the floor spans a full 24 feet so I made it quite rigid; with 50 lb. per sq. ft., it will not deflect 3/8"), and new bathrooms, etc. as well as new heating, A/C, all new electrical, flooring, etc. out of the deal. Still not really viable and I would not have chosen to do it at all but such is life and all things considered, not even close to the worst thing that could happen and certainly nothing I can whine about. BTW- had the rough electrical inspection and not a single failure so that was a huge load off my plate. Electrics, electronics, wiring and so forth are no problem but I am not an electrician so 1) do not know what is available 2) do not know how many things are 'usually' done and 3) while I can read the NEC, I have no idea what rubs the town elec. inspector like sandpaper. He complimented us on the electrical but especially the framing- said it was the nicest, neatest and strongest inside framing he has ever seen.... and then asked to and took a few photos of said framing.

Kathy- thanks, and great to hear you and Blaise (SP?, sorry) are doing well! Stealing any firewood these days....? :-)

Anyway, as I said, just a quick catch-up. If this post is too long, in the wrong place, offensive in any way or someone simply feels the need or even desire, please modify, abbreviate or simply delete as desired; I am merely a visitor (interloper really) in a sandbox belonging to others.

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Brian, I am glad you came back for a visit, and I hope you will come back and stay longer. 

Good LUCK with the house project, no I mean renovation, dang I mean construction, oh heck, you know what I mean.   ;D
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Hi Brian...  good to see you poking at the keyboard on the forum. Try not to take so long until the next visit.
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Brian, darn nice to see you here again. I followed you on the Coast to Coast marathon a few years ago and enjoyed every minute of it. While we haven't met, I feel like I know you. You're part of the "color" of COG to me. If you need a break  ;D from the house, come to a SE event. (We could organize a Ride to Build to help you out, but you might not like the results.... )   ;D

Come around more often. Cool!!

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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2017, 10:58:58 pm »
Brian, I talk with you so much on the other Forum that I didn't realize you haven't been posting anything here.
   Geez, I must be getting old / forgetful.   :-[
      Nahhhh!!

Anyway, glad to see your post / here..

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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2017, 01:11:20 am »
Hey,  welcome back!

glad to see you back on the ole forum  :)
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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2017, 01:25:23 am »
Hi Brian

Nice to see you here. I enjoyed our off line conversations.

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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2017, 01:32:45 am »
Hey again, Brian!
Sounds like you have the monumental task headed in the right direction!
Kudos to you for getting kind words from the inspector!

A few things I have to follow on residential wiring... especially 2-stories with 2 panels...
First, that's how I do it. I usually always set a second panel upstairs. Like you said, it just makes it easier.
One thing to bear in mind, while the 200 amp main panel is allowed to combine the neutrals and mechanical (bare) grounds on the same bus, the secondary service (100 amp, for your project,) should be a 4 wire, not 3 wire, and the neutrals and mechanicals have to be seperated. This prevents feedback shock possibilities from occurring. Also, they used to allow the use of #2 USE cable ( like a large, 4 wire romex) for a 100 amp secondary service. But, code changes, and most inspectors won't go for that any more. In the Tulsa area, secondary services (even in residential) are required to be in conduit, and electrical PVC is allowed.

Second, all bedrooms, hallways adjoining bedrooms, stairwells, basements are required to have smoke detectors, interconnected, electric/battery combo. Inspectors vary, but most around here like for them to be added to light circuits. I'd check with yours beforehand.

A big thing around here in residential has been the major change that occurred between the 2011 NEC, and the 2014. AFCI's up until then were only required for bedroom circuits. Kitchens, bathrooms, outside recepts, garage recepts were required to be GFCI'd. Refrigerator recepts, microwaves, freezers, dishwashers, venthoods, disposals, and garage door openers were exempted from GFCI requirements for common sense reasons. In 2014, they introduced combination AFCI/GFCI breakers, and stated "all receptacles, unless already GFCI protected, shall be AFCI/GFCI combination protected." This one sentence in the 2014 NEC makes a huge difference in cost, what's involved, and circuit breaker tripping!
Digital appliances are very prone to false tripping AFCI's.
 They have recently introduced a new AFCI receptacle. But to use it on a circuit, it's installed in the first outlet of the circuit, it cannot be placed any farther away than 50' from the panel, and the first loop from the panel to the AFCI outlet either has to be piped in emt conduit, or MC cable! The rest of the circuit can be romex...
 So... Around here, most cities and counties are refusing to adopt the 2014 code. Coming soon... the 2017 code, and it will be even harsher.

Every 3 years, the NEC rewrites, and over 1,000 changes are made... most to the residential portion of the code, and some changes as subtle as changing the words from "may" to "shall." But the resulting change can be huge, and wide open for interpretation... depending on who your "Local authority having jurisdiction" happens to be, and how they read it.

It's one of the biggest challenges electricians deal with. Every 3 years, we must attend a Continuing Education class on code update, pay a fee, get a certificate, and attach that when we renew our license.
Lately, I take it online instead of in person. But, it takes longer online...just more convenient and a little cheaper.

Thirdly, they now require a receptacle every 6' of usuable wall space, and have redefined what "usable wall space" means.

I've been in the business now for 46 years. How you make your connections is critical. A lot of electricians use the little push splice connectors tha come in a small jar. A lot of florescent lights are using them now, too. I'm not a big fan, because I've had to rework them after they've failed. I've always twist spiraled the wires with pliers, and use wire nut connectors. Properly made, they'll be trouble-free for more than a lifetime. For me, connections are vital importance. When installing switches or recepts, never stab the wire in the holes in the back, or "speedwire" the device. Make hooks, and wrap the wires around the screws the direction the screw tightens, and tighten every screw well. Don't forget a single screw! Follow proper polarity rules.

Oh... one other new residential change... until lately, it's always been acceptable to use a white in the romex as a hot without changing the color of the wire. Now, it has to be identified as a hot's color, (black, red, blue, etc.) Say, you're wiring a light circuit, and you choose to pull your hot/neutral to the light, and send one pice of 12/2 wg romex down to the single pole switch only. You'd add the white wire to the black hots. This sends the white as a hot down to the switch, and the black of that romex comes back to the light as the switchleg to the light. Now, you have to put marking tape on the white, where we never had to do that before. Things like this can cause you to fail an inspection.

If you're successful in doing your own wiring and get an inspector to pass it on the rough-in and final, celebrate! It's a major achievement! Challenge, even for us guys that do it everyday for a living.

One thing about it, Brian... just like letting others work on your motorcycle, when you do the work yourself, you know what you got. And with that comes along a sense of pride, knowing it was done right.

Hope it all goes well, and if you run in to anything and have a question, gimmee a shout.
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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2017, 12:15:50 pm »
Hey Brian, good to see you in these neck of the woods again. :beerchug:

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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2017, 09:53:13 pm »
Brian, it's great to hear from you. Thanks for posting!

I just want to thank you again (and again) for including your pioneering instructions for installing a Rostra on a C14. You have helped so many of us with your hard work. Thanks again!
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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2017, 12:29:14 am »
Hey Brian good to see your alive. Hopefully you will need a break soon and we will catch up with you at a rally.

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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2017, 11:12:38 am »


I just want to thank you again (and again) for including your pioneering instructions for installing a Rostra on a C14. You have helped so many of us with your hard work. Thanks again!

I agree with Jim on this. Plus a shout-out for making the fuel warming eliminator thingy. Thank you Brian :)
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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2017, 05:04:47 pm »
Thanks again folks for all the kind words and warm welcome. Nice to see so many familiar 'faces' still around.

I want to reply to Bob (C14LVR) but this is not the correct place. So I will start a new thread about my house project in the 'say anything...' section.

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Re: Well, not really an introduction, more like a 'stop by and say hello'
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2017, 01:38:08 am »
Hi Bob,

I did reply to this post in a new thread located here:
http://forum.cog-online.org/say-anything-here-except-that!/house-project-the-never-ending-all-encompassing-house-project/

Brian


Hey again, Brian!
Sounds like you have the monumental task headed in the right direction!
Kudos to you for getting kind words from the inspector!

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