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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #50 on: July 31, 2018, 02:22:01 pm »
Have a question for the AGTATT crowd. btw, I am mostly, I wore jeans and didn't wear a back protector, neck roll or air vest. What I wonder is, how many of you wear either a 3/4 or modular helmet? And do you feel either makes you as safe as a full face. I still don't trust modulars, and since I see no modulars on the Snell 2015 list and DOT does not do a chin bar test, and I can't believe (In my little and damaged mind) that they are as safe. Again, going from my past, my Shoei chin bar cracked in an accident. If it had broken off, it, and possibly my lower jaw, would have been in my throat.gear for riding bikes. My wife is FF helmet, boots, gloves, Jacket and riding pants. I was FF helmet, t-shirt, jeans and boots until I met her. (On the street Racing I was all the gear, but then, I didn't wear a seatbelt in a car, but my race cars had 5 point harness) She got me always wearing the jacket and gloves also. Jacket saved my hide on the street.

I have an HJC FF with a smoked FS that I don't switch out with clear FS, so I only use it riding locally and obviously not after dark.

I also have a shoei neotech (modular) that I always wear when touring. Reason is it has the slide-down smoked visor and is quieter than the HJC, so it works for me during all riding hours.

Regarding safety, I have also heard numerous times that modulars are not as safe as FF.  The Jennings track does not allow modulars for this reason.

I wear the modular more out of convenience, and figure a modular lid is better than no lid at all.  I could probably be persuaded if I saw conclusive evidence.
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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #51 on: July 31, 2018, 03:13:26 pm »
I went to Modulars over 10 years ago. Like Shawn I currently have the Shoei Neotec.
While I agree that they are not as safe as full coverage, they are better than the original modular that were offered, and are pretty tough.
 I feel that the convenience of the modular makes it worth the slight risk.

My personal {ATGATT} is boots, gloves, helmet, mesh jacket, and mesh pants.
      I know that others will disagree {and suggest I forgot XXX}. 
       I mention it to show that everyone has a different value for ATGATT..

Differing values;   
                     Some feel you need to dress like your going to a race every time you get on the bike.
                         ie; Everything you can put on in the best gear you can buy...
                     Some feel jeans and a T shirt are all the gear.
                            ie; {as they aren't wearing their shorts and flip flops}
                     Some, {like me} are comfortable with less than "all and the best", but want more than "the minimum"..

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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2018, 03:44:26 pm »
I went to Modulars over 10 years ago. Like Shawn I currently have the Shoei Neotec.
While I agree that they are not as safe as full coverage, they are better than the original modular that were offered, and are pretty tough.
 I feel that the convenience of the modular makes it worth the slight risk.

My personal {ATGATT} is boots, gloves, helmet, mesh jacket, and mesh pants.
      I know that others will disagree {and suggest I forgot XXX}. 
       I mention it to show that everyone has a different value for ATGATT..

Differing values;   
                     Some feel you need to dress like your going to a race every time you get on the bike.
                         ie; Everything you can put on in the best gear you can buy...
                     Some feel jeans and a T shirt are all the gear.
                            ie; {as they aren't wearing their shorts and flip flops}
                     Some, {like me} are comfortable with less than all and the best, but more than the minimum..

Ride safe, Ted

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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2018, 07:23:50 pm »
Don't worry Shawn, you're learning....   :rotflmao:
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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2018, 07:48:22 pm »
Geez, why is everyone always pickin' on me.
   I try to slip in a little XXX "alkyhawl" into the discussion and ya'll accuse me of introducin' porn.  :-[

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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2018, 09:02:58 pm »
Have a question for the AGTATT crowd. btw, I am mostly, I wore jeans and didn't wear a back protector, neck roll or air vest. What I wonder is, how many of you wear either a 3/4 or modular helmet? And do you feel either makes you as safe as a full face. I still don't trust modulars, and since I see no modulars on the Snell 2015 list and DOT does not do a chin bar test, and I can't believe (In my little and damaged mind) that they are as safe. Again, going from my past, my Shoei chin bar cracked in an accident. If it had broken off, it, and possibly my lower jaw, would have been in my throat.gear for riding bikes. My wife is FF helmet, boots, gloves, Jacket and riding pants. I was FF helmet, t-shirt, jeans and boots until I met her. (On the street Racing I was all the gear, but then, I didn't wear a seatbelt in a car, but my race cars had 5 point harness) She got me always wearing the jacket and gloves also. Jacket saved my hide on the street.
I wear a modular helmet although a true statement that there isn't any modulars with SNELL ratings many open face do and a modular is safe than the open. The ratings are funny,  I drag race and here in Washington anyway the helmet I wear at the track is reqired SNELL'S  2010 way more stringently tested and safer than anything with a mere DOT rating yet not legal for street use. I definitely trust the SNELL over DOT any day, the DOT rating is nothing but a revenue source.
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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2018, 10:29:53 pm »

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I wear a modular helmet although a true statement that there isn't any modulars with SNELL ratings many open face do and a modular is safe than the open. The ratings are funny,  I drag race and here in Washington anyway the helmet I wear at the track is reqired SNELL'S  2010 way more stringently tested and safer than anything with a mere DOT rating yet not legal for street use. I definitely trust the SNELL over DOT any day, the DOT rating is nothing but a revenue source.
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Yes, but open face have no chin bar to test!  ;)
Here is why I haven't switched to a modular. Shoei rep told me it is designed to do this....still made me think. 
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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2018, 10:35:40 pm »

I wear a modular helmet although a true statement that there isn't any modulars with SNELL ratings many open face do and a modular is safe than the open. The ratings are funny,  I drag race and here in Washington anyway the helmet I wear at the track is reqired SNELL'S  2010 way more stringently tested and safer than anything with a mere DOT rating yet not legal for street use. I definitely trust the SNELL over DOT any day, the DOT rating is nothing but a revenue source.
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Yes, but open face have no chin bar to test!  ;)
Here is why I haven't switched to a modular. Shoei rep told me it is designed to do this....still made me think.
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I have a feeling I'll be back in the helmet market before too long. >:(
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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2018, 12:03:30 am »
If you are in the market for a full face helmet. I just got a Shoei GT-Air (Dauntless black/blue/white) today from https://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com for $430. They were normally $670. But the Dauntless and Expanse color schemes are discontinued so are at closeout prices. Same helmets as current retail stock, just discontinued colors.   :great:

When I ordered it Saturday with standard free shipping the web site said it would be 5 to 10 work days to get it. They had questions on the shipping address and called me Monday and we got it resolved in a couple minutes. They shipped it Monday & I received it today (Wed), Kansas City to Denver. Great service from these guys on my purchase.

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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2018, 10:57:03 pm »
Sorry Shawn!
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Re: Are most COG members ATGATT?
« Reply #60 on: August 04, 2018, 01:59:26 am »
Many are familiar with FortNine reviews.
This one sheds light on few things people might not be aware of when it comes to helmets...
Have a looksee ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwwlvi1hf10

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