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Bad weather lowering rider fatalities?
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:48:01 pm »
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-motorcyle-fatalities-drop-in-2013-20140506-story.html

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"In 2011, the most recent year numbers are available, 29% of motorcyclists killed on the road had a blood alcohol concentration above .08%, the legal limit for vehicle operation in California and many other states.

For the same period, 22% of riders involved in fatal crashes did not have valid motorcycle licenses. More than a third of riders in fatal crashes were speeding -- and half of those fatal accidents didn't involve another vehicle.

Most tellingly, fatality rates were higher in states that do not have mandatory helmet laws. Currently, only 19 states require that helmets be worn by all riders and passengers. The remainder either require only that children wear helmets or have no requirements at all.

According to the NHTSA, "There were 10 times as many unhelmeted motorcyclist fatalities in states without universal helmet laws, compared to states with universal helmet laws, in 2012."

"By far, helmets are the single most effective way to prevent serious injury and death in the event of a motorcycle crash," said Kendell Poole, GHSA chairman."

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Re: Bad weather lowering rider fatalities?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2015, 06:23:40 am »
Well, they've done a good job drawing a conclusion without clarifying the statistics or showing relevance.

We all know that if you go down, not having a helmet is a Bad Thing. Just like not having good gear. In my mind it's better to not go down at all (which is what I strive for).

What we don't know from these stats is the overlap of:

1. 22% of fatalities without licenses
2. 33%+ who were speeding
3. 29% who were over 0.8%
4. fatality percentages without helmets ("most" is nicely ambiguous).

My question is: what relevance do numbers 1, 2, and 3 have to their point of helmets being the "most effective" way to prevent serious injury? Those number come across as unrelated hype.



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Re: Bad weather lowering rider fatalities?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2015, 03:02:36 pm »
""I'd hate to think that the only thing you can do to prevent motorcycle deaths is have crummy weather," he said. "But that's what happened last year.

 Wait one minute. With the drought in California we had almost perfect riding weather all year. How could the author let that statement go unchallenged with the states stats most improved?

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Re: Bad weather lowering rider fatalities?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2015, 02:24:29 am »
Well, they've done a good job drawing a conclusion without clarifying the statistics or showing relevance.

We all know that if you go down, not having a helmet is a Bad Thing. Just like not having good gear. In my mind it's better to not go down at all (which is what I strive for).

What we don't know from these stats is the overlap of:

1. 22% of fatalities without licenses
2. 33%+ who were speeding
3. 29% who were over 0.8%
4. fatality percentages without helmets ("most" is nicely ambiguous).

My question is: what relevance do numbers 1, 2, and 3 have to their point of helmets being the "most effective" way to prevent serious injury? Those number come across as unrelated hype.

I wouldn't call it "hype", but nice to know if accurate which they probably aren't.  It doesn't say which of 1,2, and 3 were helmeted or not.  And yeah, nobody wants to crash, but when your plan of not crashing fails....well.

Regardless of everything else I think we can gather that obeying speed limits while somber, licensed, and helmeted gives us the best chances of survival out there thus justifying the existence of these organizations that employ rocket surgeons.
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