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Offline Ranger

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No helmet law here in New Hampshire. Live free or die, but what they don't tell you is that whether you live free or not, you still die anyway.

And if you crash into a pole at 65, and die, you'll be just as dead as you would be if you did it at 185. But if you put no money down you will be required to have insurance. If you pay cash you don't have to have insurance.

True, however if your are tooling along at a cool 185 that chances of getting up close and personal with a telephone pole go up dramatically. And I stand corrected on my earlier post. If you bank finance a bike purchase in my state you will be required to have collision insurance. Not sure if they require personal injury insurance which is what you will need for medical expenses.

Another thought: I recently saw a high octane crotch rocket that has a sticker on the tail end that read: "Life begins at 175"  Does that sound like an oxymoron to any one else but me?

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Hey Davey... glad to see you stopping by. Thanks for the articles. I read them all, but you miss the point. I feel a helmet/gear is not going to save everyone every time. However, I figure wearing it is the least I can do to improve my chances of surviving a crash.  Where and when you choose to use it is your business(at least here in CT).  I'm not going to get drawn into the legal battle over whether the state should mandate it. Consider yourself lucky you have the option. The guy this thread was originally started over died from head injuries that MAY have been prevented by his wearing a helmet.  That's the sad ironic part.  Wearing your helmet or not, lets go for a ride.
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He died from someone else's incident, and over reacted, costing him his.  Not unusual.  In an emergency we resort to habit - what is yours?  (I was a MSF train the trainer for 20 yrs).

I'm all about freedom of choice, but also have my own preferences.  That said, why is it EVERY state has a seatbelt law (albeit to obtain federal road funds), but about half the states DON'T have a helmet law (and the BS about "when on a permit", or "under age 21" crap does not apply as a "law".  A helmet law to me is all the time, everyone, period.

My insurance should not be affected because others chose not to wear one, nor should I have to be held liable or financially because of a crash with someone who is not wearing a helmet (if they obtain head injuries it should be their problem, not mine, even if I caused the accident).

But hey, if congress can deem which light bulbs we use, it is possible they'll go from helmet to body armor to..... but I wear all that now!

I trust no one on the road.  And to make it worse, they now have cellphones, GPS's, DVD players, lack of driver education, etc counting against my safety.

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That said, why is it EVERY state has a seatbelt law (albeit to obtain federal road funds), but about half the states DON'T have a helmet law (and the BS about "when on a permit", or "under age 21" crap does not apply as a "law".  A helmet law to me is all the time, everyone, period.

By your definition of helmet law, NH does not have a seat-belt law.

And, explain why should someone be forced to wear a helmet, if they don't want to, just to save you money?
« Last Edit: July 28, 2011, 12:59:02 pm by WillyP »
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Or maybe we should just change your statement a bit...

My insurance should not be affected because others chose not to wear one get into motorcycle accidents, nor should I have to be held liable or financially because of a crash with someone who is not wearing a helmet operating a motorcycle(if they obtain head any injuries it should be their problem, not mine, even if I caused the accident).

Guess no-one should ride motorcycles....
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Yep... It really is a matter of perspective.

If the insurance companies want to encourage people to wear a helmet, perhaps there could be some bonus in the settlement if you have been injured while wearing a helmet.
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This is neither pro or anti helmet law. Its personal experience and I defy anyone to argue that! Way back when in '84, I wrecked my '83 Honda 750 Interceptor. After sliding along on my back thinking "This is fun!" when I came to a stop and got up, I discovered two things. One, I had a broken collar bone and two, I had a gouge about 3/8" deep in the back of my helmet! If hadn't been wearing the helmet, that would have been the back of my head!! Oh yeah, and this was before we had stuff called "riding gear" so I also had a lot of road rash! Would I have been wearing a helmet if Florida did not have a helmet law at that time? I honestly don't know. After all, I was younger and crazier at that time. But I DO know that if I had not been wearing the helmet I would have been in much worse shape. So let's just say I believe in helmets! Do I want someone telling me I HAVE to wear one? Probably not. But, without one, I may not have been here to "enjoy(?)" discussions such as this! JM $0.02.

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This is neither pro or anti helmet law. Its personal experience and I defy anyone to argue that! Way back when in '84, I wrecked my '83 Honda 750 Interceptor. After sliding along on my back thinking "This is fun!" when I came to a stop and got up, I discovered two things. One, I had a broken collar bone and two, I had a gouge about 3/8" deep in the back of my helmet! If hadn't been wearing the helmet, that would have been the back of my head!! Oh yeah, and this was before we had stuff called "riding gear" so I also had a lot of road rash! Would I have been wearing a helmet if Florida did not have a helmet law at that time? I honestly don't know. After all, I was younger and crazier at that time. But I DO know that if I had not been wearing the helmet I would have been in much worse shape. So let's just say I believe in helmets! Do I want someone telling me I HAVE to wear one? Probably not. But, without one, I may not have been here to "enjoy(?)" discussions such as this! JM $0.02.

Eddie

Maybe not. But with the helmet you could have broken your neck. But at least your head would have looked good at the funeral!    >:(   Only messing with you. But a lot of truth in jest.

Now here's the Argument you asked for.  :D   The 83 Interceptor wasn't called a 750. The 83 Interceptor was called a V45 Interceptor (yes it was750 though). It wasn't until after the tariff beater Interceptor (700) came out in 84 that Honda started called the V45 Interceptor the Interceptor 750. So now you had the  (just plain ole') Interceptor (700) and the Interceptor 750. So for just that first year (1983). The Interceptor was known as the V45 Interceptor. (I also had one and loved that bike)  There, I found something to give you an Argument. Even though it wasn't the subject you challenged!!!  :)

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You are correct, Bob! It even said V45 right on the side! No argument from me on this.  :P Back at ya'!

Don't get me started on the "Harley" tariff! Like somebody interested in the Interceptor was in the market for an HD!!

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