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Motorcycle Talk => Motorcycle Safety => Topic started by: mnbikeguy on July 12, 2017, 10:13:59 pm

Title: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: mnbikeguy on July 12, 2017, 10:13:59 pm
Woah! This  (https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/video-what-to-do-when-youre-into-a-turn-too-hot?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=boosted-posts|tpfn&utm_content=common-tread-how-to&utm_term=video-what-to-do-when-youre-into-a-turn-too-hot-post-040517-|tpfn)will make you pucker.
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: smithr1 on July 13, 2017, 04:43:52 pm
I have felt that feeling.  The more you try to tell yourself lean and try to make it the more your body wants to stiffen up.  It sends you in a straight line to NOT GOOD.  Glad he made it out of that one.
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: ConcoursKZ on July 13, 2017, 05:07:52 pm
The toughest thing for people to learn is look where you want to go and trust the bike. It will hold. Keep your feet on the pegs.
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: Ranger Jim on July 13, 2017, 05:20:35 pm
  :iagree:
Your instincts, in this case, can get you killed.
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: smithr1 on July 13, 2017, 05:44:35 pm
Yes it looks like he has his foot down trying to dirt bike it before he even crosses the center line. 

I am not sure I might have given up on the turn also if I was across the line enough and saw the SUV coming though.  The cliff may be better than a head on.  He looks to have given up before that point though.
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: seagiant1 on July 13, 2017, 06:57:32 pm
Hi,
      Thanks, good lesson and one that probably needs to be reinforced in the old cabeza! (my case anyway!) ;D

I've blown some right hand curves (crossed centerline!) but....

Try real hard not to.... :-[

Law of averages (especially in Florida!).... :-X

Not really on your side!!! :(
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: danodemotoman on July 13, 2017, 07:32:15 pm
 We all need to practice emergency turning.
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: mnofpeace on July 18, 2017, 03:22:17 pm
Not to be too critical, but that isnt that harsh a curve.  two words on practicing fast-paced riding:

TRACK DAYS

they teach you that your bike can take corners a lot faster than you think, and you get to practice turning, fast, slow, panic'd, under control...to learn both the limits of your bike and of your riding.

im not sure if it was the turn that scared him, singularly, into putting a foot down and giving up on turning, or maybe it was the sight of the oncoming car, as he was trying to look through the turn, that might have done it.  Similar to when we see a guy on a racetrack see the guy in front of him go down, and instead of continuing thru the turn, he gives up because his concentration has been broken, so he follows the down'd rider into and off of the track.  In this case, its possible he was watching the rider in front of him, and all of a sudden his vision is filled with the grill of the oncoming car, and all you need at that point is a half second of broken concentration to cause you to stiffen...

just my 2 cents...
Title: Re: Ever come into fast? This guy did and lived to tell the tail.
Post by: Ranger Jim on July 18, 2017, 03:32:24 pm
I don't think he ever saw that oncoming car until he was already committed to crashing.  This was a fairly typical crash on someone who was exceeding their ability/experience. Would track experience help? Of course, but so would parking lot training like an MSF Advanced Rider Course or Lee Parks Total Control. Not everyone has convenient/affordable access to track experience.