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Offline Brett0769

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« on: January 23, 2009, 04:23:00 pm »
There's a great article entitled: "What we can learn" in the latest American Motorcyclist (It's the AMA's mag for those of you who are not yet members.)     In response to a new crash study about to begin, they looked back at the Hurt report that came out in 1981.    The thing I like about the new study is that there's going to be a focus on gear that's worn and how it affected injuries.      Interesting stuff from the Hurt report:     In multi-vehicle crashes, the driver of the other vehicle was responsible 2/3 of the time.     Most motorcyclists involved in crashes were inexperienced, untrained, unlicensed and did a poor job of avoiding the collision.     92% of motorcyclists involved in crashes were self-taught.     Motorcyclists with MSF training were less involved in accidents and less injured when they were.     The size of the motorcycle's engine had no bearing on whether that motorcycle would be involved in a crash.     The #1 cause of collisions was the driver turning left into the motorcyclist's path.            
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 05:42:00 pm »
Further data from the Hurt Report...    Nearly 50% of all crashes involved alcohol.    75% of crashes were found to involve a motorcycle and a passenger vehicle, while the remaining 25% were single motorcycle crashes.    Single motorcycle crashes were almost entirely attributed to riding beyond one's abilities, including underbraking or failure to corner properly.    The report's additional findings show that the wearing of appropriate gear
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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2009, 04:57:00 pm »
I think it's great that they are finally going to do another study.  However, I can't see them coming up with different results than what you have already stated here.  There may be some slight changes in the numbers/statistics, but the conclusions reached will be the same.  I look forward to the gear part of the study, though.  I think it will show the overwhelming benefits of wearing proper gear.  
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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2009, 10:40:00 pm »
It is great that there will be a new study.  As for the Hurt report stating self taught riders were involved in so many accidents, well back then there was very little training available so that's nothing new.   Yuma,  Summer in Yuma is not hell, but hell is a local call :-)  2006 Connie http://community.webshots.com/user/Lateck?vhost=community
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2009, 03:23:00 pm »
There was a report that came out of the State of Washington in 2006 that was pretty interesting. Its 23 pages long but worth the read I think.    http://www.dol.wa.gov/about/reports/mototaskforce.pdf  

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 02:24:00 pm »
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As for the Hurt report stating self taught riders were involved in so many accidents, well back then there was very little training available so that's nothing new.
   I think that more significant than the self-taught riders being overwhelmingly involved in crashes is the fact that trained riders were less injured when they were involved in crashes. It shows that investing in training and safety gear does pay off.    
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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2009, 03:12:00 pm »
That Washington report is worthless.  It only states the obvious,   proves nothing, and does nothing in depth.  Pretty charts but as Mark   Twain said, "there are three kinds of lies, "lies, damned lies, and   statistics."    They put half the blame on the motorcyclist, which may or may not be   valid, but then ALL of the enforcement is against the   motorcyclist.  There is not ONE word about educating or training the   motorist other than just putting up a few signs.  NOtice, nothing was   said about drunk drivers, just that alcohol is a factor and drunk   motorcyclists are singled out.    Worthless.    This new report will only be valid if they take the whole picture into   account and do not do like Washington did, just study the   motorcyclist and only suggest enforcement against us.  All the drunk   riding, licensing, helmet, and equipment laws in the world will not   save us from the person who changes lanes into us or turns left in   front of us.  
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2009, 08:39:00 pm »
 
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Brett  "It shows that investing in training and safety gear does pay off. "  [/quote  I'll agree 100%    Yuma,  Summer in Yuma is not hell, but hell is a local call :-)  2006 Connie http://community.webshots.com/user/Lateck?vhost=community
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 03:22:00 am »
I for one am looking forward to new data. I doubt the conclusions will be significantly different than those of the Hurt report. However given the age of the Hurt report no politician or bureaucrat would pay any attention to a report so old. However it will be more difficult to completely ignore new and no doubt compelling data.     I think any additional attention to improving and or increasing the safety of motorcyclists is attention well deserved. Yes I feel more education is in order and yes I believe much of this education needs to be addressed to the "other" vehicle operators on the road. This being said it is still your responsibility to learn to reCOGnize high risk areas and or situations and more importantly learn how to deal with them by practicing your stopping and avoidance skills. After all the only persons judgement you should implicitly trust on the road is your own. Therefore make sure it is a well educated and practiced response.     AKA "2linby" That's 2-lin-by folks!  Northwest Area Director  COG #5539  AMA #927779  IBA #15034  TEAM OREGON MC Instructor    http://community.webshots.com/user/2linby  http://tinyurl.com/njas8 (IBA BunBurner Gold Trip)  http://tinyurl.com/lwelx (Alaska trip)  
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