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The Pace - a must read
« on: December 01, 2010, 06:21:14 pm »
The Pace by Nick Ienatsch was originally published 1993 in Motorcyclist magazine. IIRC, Nick republished it years later with extras.  The article shows up on many motorcycling web sites and forums in both versions, and some modified beyond the original.

Click here to do a Google search for the article, or check out one of the links below.
 
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/flashback/122_0911_the_pace_nick_ienatsch/index.html
http://www.sportrider.com/ride/146_9306_motorcycle_pacing/index.html
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2010, 04:14:33 pm »
This is one of the best "descriptions" of what safe street riding should be!! I always enjoy reading it. Thanks for posting it.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2010, 02:24:29 am »
SSmith, thank you for this link to the article "The Pace"  Having just survived from a motor vehicle accident with, miraculously little long term damage to me (though my Connie :(  is totalled) I have been replaying the incident in my mind.  I was not at fault, per se, but "The Pace" brought up something I was lacking:  my state of mind.  I love to go fast, in whatever vehicle I drive, but I have started to 'push' my Connie when the opportunity presents itself.  "The Pace" is almost a Zen philosophy of mind and machine and I find myself lacking.  This just shows me that there is more to riding than going fast. 

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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2010, 06:53:18 am »
 Yes, the article opened my eyes when new to riding the 1998 Conk. Article goes back to 1991.
 I try to use this explanation at the riders meeting when hosting the big twisty like NWCOG The Volcano Ride.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2010, 04:04:18 pm »
Yes, the article opened my eyes when new to riding the 1998 Conk. Article goes back to 1991.
 I try to use this explanation at the riders meeting when hosting the big twisty like NWCOG The Volcano Ride.

Dan I think that they should have this posted on all the gas pumps in Cougar,WA. I've seen way to many unnecessary crashes on the way up to the mountain. Riders just don't seem to realize how small of margin there is for error. And speed/ego always complicates things.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2010, 04:47:06 pm »
Dan I think that they should have this posted on all the gas pumps in Cougar,WA. I've seen way to many unnecessary crashes on the way up to the mountain. Riders just don't seem to realize how small of margin there is for error. And speed/ego always complicates things.

Even if it became mandatory reading, the weekend warrior phenomenon would still be prevalent. The combination of ego, testosterone, horsepower, and two wheels is not always a pretty mix.

Still, crashes happen to nice guys/gals who are riding their ride. Some riders become complacent with the combination of their riding skills and environment. While they may be good riders in their everyday situation, take them a rider out of their normal environment and placed into a more technically challenging one can have devastating results.  For example, many "flatlands" riders have been bitten when riding the Dragon or other technical roads in the Smoky Mountains.   

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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2010, 09:49:38 pm »
Good read.  Thanks for the posting.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 02:20:41 am »
Hey, Steve...who you callin' a flatlander?  :)) We have hills in Florida. Well, if you can call 348 feet a hill! And we even have a few curves. It's just that the hills and curves aren't together. That's what confuses me!!

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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 03:00:07 pm »
Curves are not where you swerve to miss alligators and hills are not overpasses.  Same here in Texas in parts.  Curves are because the farmer would not sell his property to the hwy dpt.  Hills are where we buried.... never mind.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2010, 04:37:07 am »
Used to chuckle at some former bosses of mine when I lived briefly on the Georgia coast.  Their method of training for running in the annual Peachtree Road Race up in Atlanta (where they have hills) was to run back and forth over the Turtle River Bridge, as it had the only major change in elevation for 30 miles (to allow freight ships to cross under Hwy 17).  My jogging days were great there = 5 miles/day was no problem.  Even took up cycling - but never had to use all 10 gears until I went to Knoxville for grad school.  Yep, I'd say it was flat...
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2010, 10:36:14 am »
Terrific read, thanks!   ;D

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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2011, 08:28:40 pm »
Good read.  I read both versions of the article.  The pace is similar to what my sports car driving friends call spirited driving.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 07:03:10 pm »
Excellent article!  Thanks for posting, i had not seen this one before!
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2011, 12:13:39 am »
good article. it's always good to refresh ones memory on riding safety.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 03:57:15 am »
Thanks for the article Steve! Good reading.

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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2011, 03:36:59 am »
I enjoyed reading this book, and there are many good things to be learned from it.  My take on it, is that the author encourages speeding around corners and intersections. This is where there is usually gravel and debris from the trucks and trailers that go off the pavement. You are encouraged to speed through these turns then grin and drive slower on the straight portions of the road. I find most accidents happen at intersections and don't understand speeding through them.

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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2011, 09:59:01 pm »
"...My take on it, is that the author encourages speeding around corners and intersections. "  I think I'm going to have to ask you to point me to those recommendations, Speed Racer.  I've read both articles numerous times and never gotten that impression.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2011, 01:58:42 am »
From Sport Riding Techniques, Ch. 10, "the rhythm that Mitch and I had fallen into was this: cool on the straights and fun in the corners. ...Big speed usually happens in a straight line, and the police have that figured out. Our new pace took away that straight-line throttle-happiness, and saved the fun for the corners.
A corner is an intersection. I have never called a curve in a road a corner. I have never had anyone refer to a curve anywhere in the mountains where I ride, Dragon or anywhere, as a corner. It's not 318 corners in 11 miles now is it? I have never said, what a sweeper corner! But I have seen word artists turn the corner away from truth, as in this thread. I'm calling BS on the corner.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2011, 02:39:33 am »
Steve:

Reading that brings a couple of places in mind.  First would be Hwy 28 between Stecoah and the Fontana Dam cutoff.  Second would be Wayah Rd.  Now if I were only about to turn onto either of them, I'd be all smiles.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2011, 03:13:26 am »
No where does Nick Ienatsch encourage "speeding through intersections." A "corner or intersection"  is not what he is refering to. Nick and his riding buddies developed "The Pace" back in '85 while he was working for Motorcyclist Magazine and riding in the mountains of southern California. It was meant for having fun in the mountain twisties, not in urban environments with corners and intersections.  I think you, Speed Racer, must be the first person to completely misunderstand what he was describing and encouraging.

I first read The Pace in Motorcyclist sometime in late 85 or early 86, and then a few years later got to ride with Nick in Utah and watch him demonstrate his method first hand.  Awesome is all I will say.

Although you have one point correct, and that is being aware of surface conditions. But if you are riding The Pace you'll be able to react to changing conditions, unlike blasting a straight, overcooking the curve and finding that the line you hoped to make is "dirty" and you have no options left.
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2011, 12:45:12 pm »
Jim is ABSOLUTELY correct. No where in the Pace does the author advocate "speeding around corners and through intersections." He is using the word "corner" to describe a curve (it is called "cornering" not "curving" after all).  I also agree with Jim that if you're riding "the Pace" you'll have the time/space to react to road conditions (e.g. gravel, on coming traffic, etc.).
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2011, 02:26:27 pm »
I no sooner read this and got news a coworker I've known for 20 years died Sunday on his 2010 ST1300............ Quite sobering for me.

I for one should read this regularly......................


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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2011, 03:07:30 pm »
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2011, 11:38:04 am »
Great article I have not seen in awhile. There is another great one on counter steering out there that is a must read also. If you hug the centerline today you will die. Cages wander way too much. Tough to navigate a turn in a car while you are on the phone or texting. A updated article on driving today would be helpful. Tim
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Re: The Pace - a must read
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2012, 06:02:58 pm »
Thank you for this post/repost. I have never read it before and now love it. Luckily after my early driving years didn't kill me I learned to Pace myself...This will help for my two wheeled fun and safety.
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