Turn Signal Ignorance

[RWulf]

Ha Ha I am the guy with the vibrator in the seat. The bike seat that is.
It works great! Also get girls interested. Great way to meet them. I also
leave the turn signal on when traveling on long trips.

[Nosmo]

If you are over 50 years old, (like me) you can just leave one blinking all the time, that's acceptable. 

If you're over 60, I think it's actually required.

[Pbfoot]

Used to have a riding buddy that would never cancel his turn signal. Many times cars would pull out in front of us because of this. Riding requires hyper awareness to survive. If you are not cancelling your turn signal, what else are you missing. I don't listen to the radio or anything else when I ride. Concentrate! Like anything, if you keep practicing, it will become automatic.

[astros50]

Safety features are designed for the lowest common denominator. Or-- the dumbest person who uses the product. 

While I cancel my signal 98 times out of 100, it only takes one time of Murphy striking to cause a bad day. On a machine that doesnt think I'm smart enough to control how much front and back brake I apply, I cant understand why it trusts me to turn off the signal. With traction control and linked/ abs brakes (expensive safety safety features),  it still baffles me as to why such a fine machine doesn't include self canceling signals.

It kind of hurts my feelings to know that I'm the dumbest among Kawasaki Concours riders because I NEED self canceling signals. As soon as I hit the post box, I'm headed over to custom dynamics to see what their system looks like. I'm hoping someone who has them installed posts here.

[Scubadoguk]

It kind of hurts my feelings to know that I'm the dumbest among Kawasaki Concours riders because I NEED self canceling signals. As soon as I hit the post box, I'm headed over to custom dynamics to see what their system looks like. I'm hoping someone who has them installed posts here.

I had the Kisan modual on my FZ1 it did exactly what it said as promised and canceled after 30 seconds and turned my flasher unit( oem unit was removed) into a bit of a novelty like parade mode where you can look like a dork with all flashers going off slightly out of sync

[dcman98]

I was just thinking about this on my way to work this morning, because I realized why my blinkers get left on on occasion.

I was making a right hand turn, blinker on, and as I'm bringing the bike upright, there is a car in front of me in my lane who had just come out of a driveway. I am now needing to change into the left lane, but I'm already reaching for the cancel signal button, and I don't press it hard enough to actually turn it off. I wonder if I pressed it hard enough, so I glance down very quickly at the dash signal and it is off, so I proceed on my merry way. At the light 2 blocks later, I realize that my glance must have been during the off phase, because the blinker is still on.

I think my turn signal doesn't get cancelled when I'm too busy dealing with more important things.

[freebird6]

I think the Kisan unit is right up my alley. I am not ashamed to admit the Scala gets a reminder from my buddy every once in a while "Heyyyyyy Blinker BOy" to tell me I did not get it turned off . I try really hard but I drive many different vehicles each week...most manuals... and I am thankful for the self cancelling sigs on my Mean Streak, Civic Si, GMC 5 speed truck as they take care of an extra function while I am one hand on the wheel and one on the shifter in the 4 wheels and while I am sorting out the line and watching/accounting for  oncoming traffic on the bike and accelerating.

I know that makes me an inferior rider. I put about 20k on a year and try to get better EVERY ride but I fear I may never conquer the turn signal.....so Kisan is gonna save my butt in those situations where I do not get it cancelled.

[Bilbur]

I felt compelled to add my .02 to the idea of canceling turn signals.

I had an issue not realizing I had my turn signal on and I decided to find a time during the turn when I could make canceling the turn signal part of the turn.

Considering we are just talking about making a turn through an intersection I have made it a habit to cancel my signal right after I drop it into second gear. It's usually just before the halfway point through the turn. And since I typically stick to second until I exit out of cornering, this method has proved pretty consistent for me. These days it's just second nature.


Maybe for the fellas that want more of an additional light or something, why not install a tiny led bulb towards the top of the dash that runs off of the same circuit as the idiot lights on the dash?  It would be small, not intrusive of the styling of the bike and it will be noticeable enough day or night to remind you.

[Packmule]

There's this from the C-10 tech pages...

http://www.cog-online.org/clubportal/clubstatic.cfm?clubID=1328&pubmenuoptID=29655

It's an older post, so I don't know if the Radio Shack P/N's are still good. Might go find out myself.

[mellow yellow]

I saw somewhere where a motorcyclist had installed two miniature lights on his dash that were wired to his turn signals. this way he would see the lights flashing and cancel them.

[Nosmo]

I saw somewhere where a motorcyclist had installed two miniature lights on his dash that were wired to his turn signals. this way he would see the lights flashing and cancel them.

UUhhhhh...... didn't your Connie already come with those? 

[BBroj]

I tend to forget more often when lane changing or exiting from a multi lane. I also have a "clutch in, signal off" routine for cornering, but the highway maneuvers still catch me riding with the signal on occasionally. Had self cancelling signals on my '82 Sabre, they worked great and I still miss them.  ???

[mellow yellow]

I saw somewhere where a motorcyclist had installed two miniature lights on his dash that were wired to his turn signals. this way he would see the lights flashing and cancel them.

UUhhhhh...... didn't your Connie already come with those?

they were mounted on the top of the dash and I believe they were led's so that they were more noticeble.

[fartymarty]

There's this from the C-10 tech pages...
http://www.cog-online.org/clubportal/clubstatic.cfm?clubID=1328&pubmenuoptID=29655
It's an older post, so I don't know if the Radio Shack P/N's are still good. Might go find out myself.

I used that same buzzer/tone chime for my ignition on warning (also from the COG Tech pages, under C14 KIPASS warning buzzer) and it's tone doesn't penetrate ear plugs very well. I imagine that when moving with a helmet on that it wouldn't work well for many, but maybe I'm just half deaf.
 I put side firing LED strips in my mirrors and that has cut way down on my leaving the  turn signal on too long incidents, although that wasn't the original reason for the install.
The vibrating seat is interesting. I felt it (or one like it) at the Idaho National during the best bike contest, eh..with my hand  . I think if I ever went that route that I'd make it so it doesn't vibrate when the bike is in neutral even if the signal is on (sorry ladies, and gents so inclined) as once my mind is set up to ignore something, it tends to keep doing it too long and then what's the point? 


 

[ZG]

If you don't use them then u cant forget to cancel them! Plus I hear the bulbs last much longer that way too!
Matt

 

 

[mattchewn]

Thanks Jay,
Thought that was gonna be lost on here for eternity!
Matt

 

[Deadeye]

The indicator lights on the Connie are huge compared to the ones that were on my Guzzi.  I seldom miss the flash any more.

[Boomer]

You can either stick a notice on the inside of your screen saying "Turn Signals?" or else get 2 yellow 12V LEDs and wire them in parallel with the turn signals.
I have friends who have done both and they both seemed to work for them.
Remember this is a 1986 bike design and back then the self canceling systems on bikes were rubbish, the few that had them.
Mind you the C14 doesn't have them either but I never missed them.
I rode a friends 1990 Kawasaki GT750 and that had them but I hated them. Always cancelled before I was ready.

[BBroj]

Remember this is a 1986 bike design and back then the self canceling systems on bikes were rubbish, the few that had them.

The self cancelling signals on my '82 Honda V45 Sabre always seemed to work just fine. I always wondered why other bikes didn't have them.

[DVanecekOld]

The self cancelling turn signals on my 82 Vision also work great, could not believe it when I got my 2000 Connie this summer it didn't have em.  I know the Connie has the dash lights but after a turn you are usually in a traffic situation where your eyes are UP and SCANNING the road-not looking down and picking out the dash lights.  I like the idea of something blinking up higher, may look into that. 

[wahrsuul]

There were self cancelling turns on the 80 (or 81?) LTD440 I used to have for the kids.  Seemed to work ok on the rare occasion we used it - the bike was mostly used in the yard for practice/stability.  it was built into the switch housing, a big box hanging below the switch.

[Mark D]

My old CB750 Honda sohc had a great signal beeper. Wonder if one could be wire in to a C-14? A great item that never failed.

[JimBob]

There were self cancelling turns on the 80 (or 81?) LTD440 I used to have for the kids.  Seemed to work ok on the rare occasion we used it - the bike was mostly used in the yard for practice/stability.  it was built into the switch housing, a big box hanging below the switch.

Had the same bike back in the 80's. Once I took apart the controls and cleaned out the gummed up lube and re-lubed everything, it all worked fine.

As I recall, it used a small steel ball bearing in a lateral channel that rolled to either side when you leaned the bike a bit. It would hit contacts to turn off the signal, kinda like a mercury switch.

[kovy]

Hello everyone

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I purchased one system you can find it on https://goo.gl/10bduU (Smart Turn System). It works awesome. Really!

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[kv5e]

Hello everyone

I made this registration only to tell you that kissantech system is very bad and doesnt solve your troubless

I purchased one system you can find it on https://goo.gl/10bduU (Smart Turn System). It works awesome. Really!

Hope that helps you

Thanks Kovy, this your first post and the link is good, nothing malicious.

Thank you for joining the forum and if you are an industry person please review the posting rules for commercial vendors.

Craig