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Offline rogracer

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14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« on: March 16, 2014, 07:44:26 pm »
The C14 fills my ST needs very well... :beerchug:...but I'm looking to add more of a standard to the garage.  I really like the technical side...and price...of the new Z1000 (and the 500 kawi bucks from bike week don't hurt)...but I'm not sure about the styling.  I may end up liking it....or maybe I'll hate it in a year or so :-[.   The primary alternative is a speed triple (or perhaps the new Monster 1200).  I'm curious about the opinions of my fellow COGers about these bikes?? 

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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2014, 12:19:12 am »
I've had three Triumph triples now, a Daytona 955i, Tiger 955i and Tiger 1050.
I'm very enamored of the three cylinder motor, very flat torque curve.  Probably the only real issue with them I've had is they aren't the best shifting bike I've encountered.
Some people tell me that they like the way four cylinder bikes deliver power better, especially in  a sport bike.  I can't say that, I don't have a lot of sport bike experience but what I have I think I like the triple better, all other things being equal.
If it were me and you've never spent time on a Triumph I would definitely try to do so, I think it is definitely different and you may very well love it or hate it.  I don't think theres any real way to know except to try it out.
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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2014, 12:21:50 am »
unless your gettin the ZX1400 Ninja I'd go w/ the Speed Triple or even the Tiger 1050  :great:
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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2014, 01:16:36 am »
The euro bike KILLS it in regards to weight, suspension, and performance  ;D

But instead of the speed triple,perhaps entertain the winner (by a wide margin) in the nakie category? Google KTM 1290 R
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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2014, 04:53:21 pm »
After looking around a bit, I don't really see that the specs for the euro Z1000 are really much different from the US version. Dyno results are scarce but it looks like the new Z will put down 125-130 or so at the wheel. That appears to be more than a Speed Triple and likely more than the new monster 1200. Of course the KTM is on another planet but the cost is much higher. My main questiion is regarding the looks and what you guys think.

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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2014, 06:37:14 pm »
have you looked at the FZ-09 yet? pretty good deal on a naked tripple

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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2014, 07:12:25 pm »
Yes the F09 looks to be a great bike, but for totally irrational reasons I want more power, just because. So the choice is speed triple, monster, or Z1k. I think the Z matches or maybe surpasses them in performance (please correct me if I'm wrong) with a substantial savings in cost. I'm just not sure about the looks. I also could swing the Aprilla but no dealers nearby kinda rules it out...otherwise it might be my first choice. The KTM is awesome and there is a dealer not too far, but its an expensive ride. So...is the Z too ugly to consider?

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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2014, 07:19:05 pm »
Yes the F09 looks to be a great bike, but for totally irrational reasons I want more power, just because. So the choice is speed triple, monster, or Z1k. I think the Z matches or maybe surpasses them in performance (please correct me if I'm wrong) with a substantial savings in cost. I'm just not sure about the looks. I also could swing the Aprilla but no dealers nearby kinda rules it out...otherwise it might be my first choice. The KTM is awesome and there is a dealer not too far, but its an expensive ride. So...is the Z too ugly to consider?

The Z isn't too ugly.  The power is just a hair more than the Speed Triple.   But the Speed Triple is lighter, more nimble/better suspension, and more character.
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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2014, 07:25:03 pm »
You could always replace the headlight on the Z1000.  The rest of the bike doesn't look too bad.
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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2014, 04:03:26 pm »
I can't speak to the Triumphs, but I did get to ride the FZ09 and Z1000 during bike week. The FZ09 was very touchy. I had to work to come on and off the power smoothly, and every bump affected the throttle. There were three settings on the bike. I don't know exactly what they control, but I was set on the middle of the road "standard" setting. The Z1000 was smooth on the throttle (as I'm used to with my Connie), had good power, and had a nice exhaust note. I did not like the dash of the Z1000. Having to look down to see the gauges, the digital speedometer and crazy LCD to LED tach made it tough to read easily. Maybe the FZ09  can be smoothed out with a throttle tamer or something and make a great bike for a few thousand dollars less.

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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 08:19:02 pm »
Yeah, the F09 has been reported to have low rpm fueling issues. The suspension is also said to reveal its low cost roots when pushed.  Stiil, a great value overall.

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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 10:08:03 pm »
Since you mentioned styling ..... Get the triple with the retrofitted bug eye lights.  Be done with it.

I really like the new z1000 styling - wasn't sure at first, but love it in person.  If I had the $ for a '14 naked, I'd have to ride them both to decide.  Both are awesome bikes on paper.  Rode an '06 bug eye and very briefly rode an 08 z1000 (both a generation or two old by now).  Both were awesome. 

In the end, with bikes that good, I think it comes down to if you want a I3 or a I4.  Don't you think?   
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Re: 14 Z1000 versus Speed Triple
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 08:44:01 pm »
Yeah that is a big part of it- I-3 or I-4.  I've ridden several speed triples with stock and arrow exhausts...I hear so many people say the I-3 is the best of both worlds between a twin and a 4....but I'm not sure I buy that. Its like the triple gives Neither the low-end thunder of the twin or the F1-like shriek of the four. Its a great motor, but I'm just not sure I like it as much as other folks. I think I'd rather have a twin or a four.