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2018 H2-SX
« on: December 25, 2017, 03:37:24 am »
I have recently had the opportunity to speak with someone from Kawasaki marketing and they indicated that the dealers are not ordering many of these for their showrooms. There are concerns with the price point. The magazines should have their hands on one soon for approved review and evaluation. The Fat Ninja family tree continues to branch.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2017, 01:01:22 pm »
I have recently had the opportunity to speak with someone from Kawasaki marketing and they indicated that the dealers are not ordering many of these for their showrooms. There are concerns with the price point. The magazines should have their hands on one soon for approved review and evaluation. The Fat Ninja family tree continues to branch.

Yea, 22k (19k) sport tourers don't sell so well in America, regardless of the marque.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 01:24:37 am »
I’m actually thinking about it.  I hope they have one at the DC motorcycle show in February.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2017, 12:27:53 am »
I’m actually thinking about it.  I hope they have one at the DC motorcycle show in February.
So are many others, they had one at the Mpls show
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2017, 12:32:05 am »
I have recently had the opportunity to speak with someone from Kawasaki marketing and they indicated that the dealers are not ordering many of these for their showrooms. There are concerns with the price point. The magazines should have their hands on one soon for approved review and evaluation. The Fat Ninja family tree continues to branch.

Yea, 22k (19k) sport tourers don't sell so well in America, regardless of the marque.
KTM seems to be doing OK
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2017, 09:52:02 pm »
KTM are not doing ok in America with the GT. They brought assloads of 16s in, some of which are still on showroom floors. They barely brought any 17s in, and they sold better, due to some tweaks. (Because the 16 model of that 20k bike has kick stand tangs snapping off, suspension problems, exhaust servo problems that force the bike into limp mode and a few others.) They won't be brining in any 18s...until the remaining 16s sell, if then. As usual, practical bikes sell better in AU and EU.

Definitely not ok. :(

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2017, 12:05:48 am »
I would say if you look at an H2-SX be sure to ride a Ninja 1000 for comparison. You could definitely add Cruise if you felt it necessary and save almost $10,000 in the process. I've had no real complaints with mine and it has plenty of power. Windshield is also adjustable which is not the case on the SX. I am interested to ride one but really have no idea where I would use another 75 horsepower.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2018, 01:26:07 am »
I'll report on it as soon as I get my axx on it. I put my down payment on a SE and it should be in and my butt on it by the end of February.
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 02:16:22 am »
I'll report on it as soon as I get my axx on it. I put my down payment on a SE and it should be in and my butt on it by the end of February.

So jealous! Tuning in, please keep us posted...  :popcorn:
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 02:22:39 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH7_ujvFE34

GREAT Marketing Video!!!

Pamela and I will see one today at the IMS show here in Dallas.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2018, 12:46:12 am »
The front range Colorado dealer is expecting delivery on one H2-SX this month.
It will be a demo for a select customer base. I'm honored to be in that base.
200hp is nice but I'm going to give the H2 a couple years to refine.

They also have a new 2016 ZX10R that I've been wanting since December. This puppy is considerably less expensive!

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2018, 05:20:10 pm »
Are we looking at the replacement for the Concours?  The side strakes, the luggage, the reminders of "better mileage/more power with a smaller motor.  I'll be surprised to see a 2019 Concours.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 05:38:20 pm »
This bike is vastly different from the C-14.  Would be hard to see it as a replacement at those costs.  I imagine Maw Kaw will wait to see how this bike sells.  Seems very one dimensional to me and there has not been a lot of support on this forum for it.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 11:19:58 am »
Yea, I looked at this bike at the motorcycle show. It's got all kinds of cool features.  I don't see it as a replacement for the C-14 but I do wonder if Kawasaki will start to incorporate some of the technology into bikes like the C14.
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2018, 02:28:40 pm »
I hope you guys are right.  With the advent of the new lighter, sportier Goldwing, I hope Kawasaki doesn't start thinking along the "me too" path.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2018, 03:24:50 pm »
If you browse around youtube for the actual road and track tests, two points start to be common for the H2-SX (and more so for the SE version).

1) The throttle is quirky, in that it seems to be on/off all the time, making setting up for corners and exiting them more difficult than it should be. Perhaps the next year model will address this.

2) Its almost as heavy as a ZX14R, and has the same difficulty turning in due to this mass. Several test riders said it felt more like a ZX14R than a Z1000.
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2018, 04:55:01 pm »
If you browse around youtube for the actual road and track tests, two points start to be common for the H2-SX (and more so for the SE version).

1) The throttle is quirky, in that it seems to be on/off all the time, making setting up for corners and exiting them more difficult than it should be. Perhaps the next year model will address this.

2) Its almost as heavy as a ZX14R, and has the same difficulty turning in due to this mass. Several test riders said it felt more like a ZX14R than a Z1000.

Pretty much meant to replace the 14R, I think. Similar hp/tq, has luggage (many 14R owners put Givi luggage on), similar weights. As for the throttle, nothing new there. A damned ECU flash (or rejetting) has been needed to sort out many a Kawi...

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2018, 06:29:36 pm »
If you browse around youtube for the actual road and track tests, two points start to be common for the H2-SX (and more so for the SE version).

1) The throttle is quirky, in that it seems to be on/off all the time, making setting up for corners and exiting them more difficult than it should be. Perhaps the next year model will address this.

2) Its almost as heavy as a ZX14R, and has the same difficulty turning in due to this mass. Several test riders said it felt more like a ZX14R than a Z1000.

Pretty much meant to replace the 14R, I think. Similar hp/tq, has luggage (many 14R owners put Givi luggage on), similar weights. As for the throttle, nothing new there. A damned ECU flash (or rejetting) has been needed to sort out many a Kawi...

Hopefully it will be straightforward to develop a good flash for it. It has 3 power modes, but that's probably in the ECU too.

I had Givi side and top cases on my ZX14, and extended handlebars. Heated grips, ports for heated liners, pretty much turned it into a 200 mph sport touring bike. After I traded it in for a C14, I was sorry I didn't keep it. It had better balance and performance than the C14, and was every bit as comfortable to do distance with.

So I'd probably think a H2-SX SE was the cat's meow.
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2018, 07:57:57 pm »
Regardless of what Kawasaki makes you're not going to make everyone happy. I've said it before and I'll say it again. There are SPORTTouring riders and there are sportTOURING riders. Me... I'm all in on the SPORTTRouring side of the fence and I'm very much looking forward to losing 120LBS and gaining 50HP. Not to mention cruise control and all the other electronic goodies this thing comes with. What's the downside? If anyone is looking to grab one Long Island Kawasaki has 4 SE's and 2 SX's coming in. The 1st SE in is mine :)
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2018, 11:33:37 am »
Regardless of what Kawasaki makes you're not going to make everyone happy. I've said it before and I'll say it again. There are SPORTTouring riders and there are sportTOURING riders. Me... I'm all in on the SPORTTRouring side of the fence and I'm very much looking forward to losing 120LBS and gaining 50HP. Not to mention cruise control and all the other electronic goodies this thing comes with. What's the downside? If anyone is looking to grab one Long Island Kawasaki has 4 SE's and 2 SX's coming in. The 1st SE in is mine :)

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2018, 12:56:42 pm »
I hate waiting! My SX SE is off the ship in California and being trucked cross country to my dealer in NY. I should be picking it up the 1st week of April.
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2018, 04:13:54 pm »
If you browse around youtube for the actual road and track tests, two points start to be common for the H2-SX (and more so for the SE version).

1) The throttle is quirky, in that it seems to be on/off all the time, making setting up for corners and exiting them more difficult than it should be. Perhaps the next year model will address this.

2) Its almost as heavy as a ZX14R, and has the same difficulty turning in due to this mass. Several test riders said it felt more like a ZX14R than a Z1000.

Pretty much meant to replace the 14R, I think. Similar hp/tq, has luggage (many 14R owners put Givi luggage on), similar weights. As for the throttle, nothing new there. A damned ECU flash (or rejetting) has been needed to sort out many a Kawi...

Hopefully it will be straightforward to develop a good flash for it. It has 3 power modes, but that's probably in the ECU too.

I had Givi side and top cases on my ZX14, and extended handlebars. Heated grips, ports for heated liners, pretty much turned it into a 200 mph sport touring bike. After I traded it in for a C14, I was sorry I didn't keep it. It had better balance and performance than the C14, and was every bit as comfortable to do distance with.

So I'd probably think a H2-SX SE was the cat's meow.

I have both, the C14 and ZX14r.  I seen the H2 SX SE at the motorcycle show, Kawasaki did an awesome job on it including the new 900.  I think it will be a very nice bike, but I wouldn't get rid of anything I have now for one and my $20k in stock trim.   What is very interesting is the soon to be ability (shops are working on it if not already capable) to go from the 197rwhp to 240+ on pump gas.    Having that much power in a somewhat comfortable chassis would be a first.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2018, 04:16:27 pm »
Correction. My new H2 is in the dealers warehouse. Came in today. I should be on it by Friday!
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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2018, 05:40:52 pm »
As far as quirky throttle, this is ride by wire hence the cruise control was easy to implement.

At least that was the feedback from Kawa at the IMS when I looked at it.

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Re: 2018 H2-SX
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2018, 11:15:10 pm »
Well I was wrong again. I picked up the SX SE today! What a bike! Yeah definitely more on the sport side than the touring side and I love it! Took it very easy riding a brand new bike on brand new tires and will get a lot more miles on it as the days go by. 1st impressions are out of sight!
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