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Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« on: July 04, 2018, 03:46:01 pm »
I have been watching videos on the Motus and although it is out of my price range it sure has my attention. I did watch one video where the rider who seemed to love the bike and gave some comparisons to an FJR in the end ranked it #2
among supersport touring bikes giving first place to the Concourse-14.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2018, 04:06:21 am »
A guy on the V4MuscleBike forum has one of the first ones and it seems more like a pure sport bike with bags. He said he can barely keep the front wheel down through 3rd gear. He was the fastest bagger at the Texas Mile this year and he ironbutted it from Atlanta before he did the mile.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 04:18:24 pm »
Anybody???
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2018, 01:15:19 am »
For that much Kelp, I can have a different colour Connie for each day of the week.
$35K for a non-pedigree bike.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2018, 12:38:34 pm »
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 02:10:01 pm »
Man that is really too bad.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2018, 05:27:44 pm »
One of the cruiser marques ought to buy the bones. Instant HP Touring bike. Same price points in common, too.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2018, 07:26:56 pm »
Curious...nothing on their website OR Facebook page. Every article seems to reference a post on the Motus Owners Group (Int'l) FB page. Kind of makes me wonder...
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2018, 09:13:29 pm »
Curious...nothing on their website OR Facebook page. Every article seems to reference a post on the Motus Owners Group (Int'l) FB page. Kind of makes me wonder...

I sure hope it isn't true! I may ride a Kawasaki but I am big on buy America when I can and the more made in America the better the opportunity.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2018, 01:13:49 pm »
I deleted a political posturing post (how's that for alliterative assonance). Politics that may polarize and posted for a purely evocative motive are not permitted.

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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2018, 04:33:43 pm »
I deleted a political posturing post (how's that for alliterative assonance). Politics that may polarize and posted for a purely evocative motive are not permitted.

Not trying to stop friendly discourse.

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Thank you. I kept seeing that post and was like...
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2018, 09:08:25 pm »
I deleted a political posturing post (how's that for alliterative assonance). Politics that may polarize and posted for a purely evocative motive are not permitted.

Not trying to stop friendly discourse.

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Thank you. I kept seeing that post and was like...


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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2018, 11:57:20 pm »
 Ha. I guess it’s not “fake news“ after all.  ::)

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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2018, 12:13:57 am »
Damn...I saw them in June at Americade. I was really Intrigued, but not about to drop 35 LARGE....not with the H2 SX at 10k lighter!
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2018, 01:19:04 am »
I really hope someone scoops it up and is able to make it all work. Maybe if that someone had better production abilities that could build the same bikes at a much more affordable price, it very expensive to build each one by hand like they were.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2018, 01:53:03 am »
Apologies for stirring up "politics" pot, but it turns out Motus is defunct as of last month.
Maybe if they had lowered their prices, they wouldn't rely on investors so much.
V4 muscle bike is cool as it can be, I'd own one. But the price is ....was....whatever!

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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2018, 09:25:13 am »
If I go downtown Ill swing by Motus HQ My commute takes me within a couple of blocks but Im in RWTW week mode(vacation from regular job)
I have no idea about anything.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2018, 11:24:25 am »
Manufacturing a somewhat complicated item is well, complicated and lots of factors are in play. Pricing is not always controllable unless you are being underwritten (subsidized) by investment funds. When funds come in, they in turn begin to be consumed and how fast they are consumed was called by the techie guys in the dotcom days, the "burn rate." If you can't bring in more than you burn, it's like using up firewood. If you can't grow sales fast enough to offset the burn, you eventually run out of money. I think the investors were scared off by all the industry "downturn" news.

I've always been sort of amused by the thought that (relatively) low volume sports cars sell for SO much, not only because of the relative desirability of them (not their utility value), which pushes their price up, but also by the allocation of overhead costs (mfg, marketing, etc) across only a relatively few units. Sometimes the technology  pushes the cost up, but I  think it's usually the allocated overhead costs.

By contrast, I always think about ditching machines which are basically specialized tractors, which sell for as much or more than Corvettes because each has a factory and employees to support (pay for), an engine, controls, regulations to meet, desirability in the marketplace (for different reasons), but a somewhat limited market demand/size. I don't think most people would equate the two as mechanical equals, but both cost more than say a standard work trim pickup truck. Said truck is much more regulated  and complicated  than the ditcher and may share a lot of technology with the Corvette. But the truck sells for 1/3 of either of the other two because the overhead is spread over thousands of units.

Pricing is also set by what someone will pay. I hope someone else scoops them up so the overhead can be spread over a larger manufacturing base so the price can come down and keep the ideas alive.

Adapting existing technology mitigates the cost somewhat, but the market still must "speak" to the price and so forth. Buel tried this route and that might be why H-D doesn't bite on this one. Motus' timing was impeccably bad to enter the market with a high end, radically different product just as the economy tanked.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2018, 11:43:35 pm »
Dang...I need to re-read this when I’m not stoned...



Manufacturing a somewhat complicated item is well, complicated and lots of factors are in play. Pricing is not always controllable unless you are being underwritten (subsidized) by investment funds. When funds come in, they in turn begin to be consumed and how fast they are consumed was called by the techie guys in the dotcom days, the "burn rate." If you can't bring in more than you burn, it's like using up firewood. If you can't grow sales fast enough to offset the burn, you eventually run out of money. I think the investors were scared off by all the industry "downturn" news.

I've always been sort of amused by the thought that (relatively) low volume sports cars sell for SO much, not only because of the relative desirability of them (not their utility value), which pushes their price up, but also by the allocation of overhead costs (mfg, marketing, etc) across only a relatively few units. Sometimes the technology  pushes the cost up, but I  think it's usually the allocated overhead costs.

By contrast, I always think about ditching machines which are basically specialized tractors, which sell for as much or more than Corvettes because each has a factory and employees to support (pay for), an engine, controls, regulations to meet, desirability in the marketplace (for different reasons), but a somewhat limited market demand/size. I don't think most people would equate the two as mechanical equals, but both cost more than say a standard work trim pickup truck. Said truck is much more regulated  and complicated  than the ditcher and may share a lot of technology with the Corvette. But the truck sells for 1/3 of either of the other two because the overhead is spread over thousands of units.

Pricing is also set by what someone will pay. I hope someone else scoops them up so the overhead can be spread over a larger manufacturing base so the price can come down and keep the ideas alive.

Adapting existing technology mitigates the cost somewhat, but the market still must "speak" to the price and so forth. Buel tried this route and that might be why H-D doesn't bite on this one. Motus' timing was impeccably bad to enter the market with a high end, radically different product just as the economy tanked.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2018, 08:47:55 pm »
Ive been at Barbers today This is the first time Ive seen one in the wild saw 3-4 of them on the outer loop
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2018, 12:37:51 am »
I knew they were not going to survive. Interesting bike, and I was thrilled to see an American motorcycle start up. However, it was priced too high, and occupied a market segment that does not represent enough room or volume potential.

Tesla is next. 

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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2018, 06:33:05 pm »
Remember vanishing act of EV1 back in 90s-00s?
Please, please, please do the same with profoundly fugly Tesla model 3.
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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2018, 07:13:32 pm »
I deleted a political posturing post (how's that for alliterative assonance). Politics that may polarize and posted for a purely evocative motive are not permitted.

Not trying to stop friendly discourse.

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Re: Anybody here ridden a Motus???
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2018, 09:02:21 pm »
Remember vanishing act of EV1 back in 90s-00s?
Please, please, please do the same with profoundly fugly Tesla model 3.
Rig the world of ugliness.

Didn’t remember that...but, you are right...that’s one fugly car...