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Feeling my age a bit
« on: July 05, 2017, 05:08:03 pm »
I'm no where near giving up riding, however, I'm starting to feel my bones and muscle aches more and more. Although I'll be kicking and screaming when the C14 goes, it's getting a bit heavy. What is a good lighter weight bike for "older" riders who still want to tour? I'm thinking Versys 650, Suzuki SV650, etc. Even a Spyder.

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2017, 05:43:25 pm »
the problem with touring on smaller bikes is wind/weather protection.  they can often be fatigue factors.

much of the middleweights have gone to adventure tour.  they are all just as good as the next and should be easy to find good used examples for a good price.

I always liked the BMW F800ST.  the yamaha FJ-09 might make a good platform.

I've personally picked up on sidecars.  three wheels of any type negates a lot of the issues with the size/weight of a bike.
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2017, 11:31:42 pm »
Try the Versys 1000.  I have a V1k and it feels very light and nimble after riding the Concours around.  I have both bikes.  I use the Concours for riding on my days off and ride the V1k to work.  You might get blown around a little on the Versys 650.

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 10:36:21 am »
Thanks folks, as always good advice.
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2017, 09:17:48 am »
Thought Steve J. might chime in with his Versys 650 experience but he may be busy riding 2 up in Canada. Left Florida for his trip. Seating position is also important. The bikes you mentioned have different ergonomics. The way you fit onto a motorbike can also keep you fresher or tire you quicker. Sounds like you better get some test rides!  :great:

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 05:59:54 pm »
Just saw these on another forum...check out:

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 11:16:00 pm »
I've set up my Ninja 650r for touring. The Versys might be better except that I'm short and the 650r starts out slightly shorter. I added a Madstad windshield for more coverage and wider bars plus barbacks. Changed sprocket from 15 to 16t.

Versys is better in that it has a bigger tank and more accessories made for it.
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 12:45:00 am »
If you still want the sport of the Concours14 but less weight I suggest test riding the Ninja 1000. There are some compromises however if you don't ride 2-up and make a few modifications in a taller screen and Murphs bar risers it is quite a fun and plenty comfortable bike. I have done 700 mile days on it with no issues. I am however not a tall person. 5'8"  which made this a better choice for me than the Versys1000

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 01:11:54 pm »
This may sound silly but my biggest concern is not being part of this group. I know i don't attend the rides for various reasons, but the technical genius of the people here is nothing short of amazing! 
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2017, 02:10:05 pm »
I've set up my Ninja 650r for touring. The Versys might be better except that I'm short and the 650r starts out slightly shorter. I added a Madstad windshield for more coverage and wider bars plus barbacks. Changed sprocket from 15 to 16t.

Versys is better in that it has a bigger tank and more accessories made for it.

Another member has the 650 Ninja as Toller. He also choose it because it is not as tall as a 650 Versys.
Bags and taller shield are available.

I've been looking at them a bit and concerned about the peg location. Looks to be a lot of knee bend?
Toller, what are your thought's on that?

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2017, 11:57:11 pm »
Rogue, I too am getting older, weaker, slower. I have been through cancer surgery, chemo, and radiation. Had ideas of giving up on a lot of things. Though it is certainly a personal thing, I found that a seat that lowers me just a bit on the C-14 made it so much easier to handle. Couldn't give up the Connie. I advise keep yours, and buy a second bike, maybe a VFR800, a Guzzi V1100 LeMans, whatever, something you have always wanted but not gotten. Keep both feet into motorcycling, make 'em drag you out kicking and screaming.

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2017, 02:53:47 am »
I've set up my Ninja 650r for touring. The Versys might be better except that I'm short and the 650r starts out slightly shorter. I added a Madstad windshield for more coverage and wider bars plus barbacks. Changed sprocket from 15 to 16t.

Versys is better in that it has a bigger tank and more accessories made for it.

Another member has the 650 Ninja as Toller. He also choose it because it is not as tall as a 650 Versys.
Bags and taller shield are available.

I've been looking at them a bit and concerned about the peg location. Looks to be a lot of knee bend?
Toller, what are your thought's on that?

Ride safe, Ted
I am seriously short, so perhaps I don't notice the knee bend so much. Still, there are good options.
I put on footpegs from a 650 KLR which are covered in rubber and much more comfortable on my feet than the stock pegs.
The also sell lowering blocks for the footpegs of the Ninja or the Versys  https://motowerk.com/products/lowering-foot-peg-blocks-for-kawasaki "designed to lower the front foot pegs straight down by 1.3" (33 mm) and to improve the comfort of your ride."

At one point I did feel cramped in the leg and cobbled up a peg 7" forward of the standard peg on the right side just for taking care of that special need.

Did I mention that I also put on bar risers and barbacks AND put on standard, less flat handlebars. I had to reroute the cables  and then had enough length for all that.

Hope you find a good alternative to a much bigger touring bike.
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2017, 02:37:53 pm »
Rogue, I too am getting older, weaker, slower. I have been through cancer surgery, chemo, and radiation. Had ideas of giving up on a lot of things. Though it is certainly a personal thing, I found that a seat that lowers me just a bit on the C-14 made it so much easier to handle. Couldn't give up the Connie. I advise keep yours, and buy a second bike, maybe a VFR800, a Guzzi V1100 LeMans, whatever, something you have always wanted but not gotten. Keep both feet into motorcycling, make 'em drag you out kicking and screaming.

I have no intent on giving up riding ever. But I'm also forced to be realistic. I don't want a Harley (NOTHING against them just don't want one) Triumph has some good looking machines. I keep looking at the Kawasaki Versys 650LT (with the bags)
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2017, 08:47:52 am »
I agree about the Versys 650 being a handsome alternative. ABS with dual discs in the front. Nearly 70 HP, more than enough to move you- even up a steep grade. Plenty of after market accessories and I think the suspension is better than the comparable Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki bikes in the same class. Dealers see summer disappearing, they may be more inclined to lower prices now....

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 09:23:16 am »
I hear ya on the getting old thing, but it beats the alternative. As noted above, there are a number of great light weight bikes for us "aging bikers". I once met up with an older guy on the BRP a number of years ago. He was on one of those scooter type bikes, like a Bergman. It was a Honda as I recall. He said that after his hip replacement he could not throw his leg over his bike without a great deal of pain and the "step thru" design fixed that just dandy. He was having a blast on it. One of his first mods was a custom fabricated cane mount to secure his walkin' stick! (LOL)

Don't let anyone try to talk you out of riding if that's still something you love doing, and still get joy out of doing. Also, don't let anyone try to talk you into keep riding if you feel it's time to stop. Only you can make that call. For me, I was having some balancing issues. I had something called a "third nerve palsy", or something like that. What would happen is my left eye would swing all the way left and stay there and nothing I did could move it back. It screwed up my balance so bad I had to abandon my bike at work one day and get a lift home. It eventually straightened out and today is normal, but the thought of having it do that again during a trip while several thousand miles away... well it was a wake up call. Then a number of other things came up in my life and all these things pointed to the same thing. It was time to hang up my helmet and do something else. Yeah, yeah, I know a trike is a workable solution for lots of guys, but they just don't do it for me. No, my "bike" has four wheels and a retractable hard top. For me, that checks all the boxes on my fun list.  :great:

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 11:56:47 am »
Well said Larry.  :great:

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2017, 08:57:47 am »
Nice way to get wind in your hair And you probably don't go through tires quite so fast

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2017, 09:14:19 am »
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Why do you carry the pole around on the front of your car?

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2017, 11:29:37 am »
LOL!    :))

It's to show the snow plow driver where the edge of the road is.  (But I suspect you already knew that)

Here's a better one that I took not too far from my house. It's the curviest road in a five mile radius!



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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2017, 11:51:27 am »
 You must be using the dashed centerline as a slalom for those curves. Where was the pole picture taken?

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2017, 12:15:34 pm »
Sweet ride!
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2017, 01:24:08 pm »
You must be using the dashed centerline as a slalom for those curves. Where was the pole picture taken?

Colorado... somewhere up by the RMNP area. I was on my way to a Miata rally in Avon, CO, where the 1996 COG national was held. I just had to go back after all those years!

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2017, 05:26:19 pm »
I thought it might be OK to speak about my best riding buddy. He has been riding a Yamaha FJR1300 for the past few years. Spinal arthritis has gotten to him, he has trouble getting his leg up and over the bike. He has trouble holding it up. I have advised him to try out a Suzuki Burgman 650. I swore to him, no jokes, no jibes. And yes, I'll still ride with him anytime, anywhere. He's having a look.

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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2017, 02:07:44 am »
We have a friend who put maybe 80k miles on a 650 Bergman. His wife was happier to ride on that two up than his other bikes. And he was fast on it, keeping up with some very brisk riding on twisty roads. I will say that with those smaller tires and wheels, it is even more critical to be fastidious about keeping up the air pressure. Letting his get low resulted in a bad crash.
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Re: Feeling my age a bit
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2017, 02:08:44 pm »
LOL!    :))

It's to show the snow plow driver where the edge of the road is.  (But I suspect you already knew that)

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You plow snow in a Mazda? A convertible?
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