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Offline whrami

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Girlfriend wants to ride
« on: April 02, 2017, 03:37:50 am »
Took the girlfriend for a ride on the C14. She's hooked but she says "I'm bored I want my own!" I'm taking the rider course with her in a month or so.

She's 5'6 and about 135lbs. Do you guys think she could handle a connie out of the rider course?  :motonoises:

I've been considering an older 2005-2012 BMW R11xx/12xx RT for her and the old Triumph Sprint (but no elec windscreen)

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2017, 04:04:21 am »
Without knowing her physical abilities, it's hard to say, but she might find it more than a handful.  I would not recommend it personally, she'll have a hard time flat-footing it when stopped and low speed is where Connie will bite you.  See the comments in this current thread in the C10 section.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2017, 04:46:51 am »
Best to get her on a smaller bike for a couple of years. 500-750 range. IMHO. The Connie is too big to start with.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2017, 05:05:47 am »
I rode a 250cc for my first year, I would endorse one for training your girlfriend.  I was about 230 lbs then, a 250 should be plenty of bike for her.  There are a lot of good habits to learn, and she won't be riding with a passenger.  Just don't expect to outrun anybody with a lot of power.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2017, 09:49:50 am »
Best to get her on a smaller bike for a couple of years. 500-750 range. IMHO. The Connie is too big to start with.
I rode a 250cc for my first year, I would endorse one for training your girlfriend.  I was about 230 lbs then, a 250 should be plenty of bike for her.  There are a lot of good habits to learn, and she won't be riding with a passenger.  Just don't expect to outrun anybody with a lot of power.

These riders know! I would like to add 2 things- 1st bike should be used, mechanically good but finish can have some scratches. Lots to choose from in the 250-300cc range. And there was a discussion on the forum not too long ago about beginning riders starting on dirt vs asphalt. Try and find it; there was a lot of wisdom in those comments.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2017, 12:17:56 pm »
Get her a dual sport to learn and take her test on, then you can ride it too.  :great:
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2017, 12:29:49 pm »
I don't know where you are but in Minnesota the class provides the bike.  No need to even invest in a bike to find out if she can catch on to the clutch, balance etc.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2017, 02:07:00 pm »
A 250 or 300 Ninjette would be a good starter bike and would continue being a blast forever, especially cornering.

A 650 Vstrom, or better yet(IMHO) would be a 650 Versys, would work well, cheap in the used market and tourable and flickable with a 250-300 mile fuel range. I went the Versys route from a c-10 and love it. Almost as quick as the c-10 but way much more fun to ride and almost 200lbs lighter with good suspension, brakes and aftermarket support. Lowering links and lower seat are available for the Versys, not sure about the others.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2017, 02:27:22 pm »
In addition to the great advice above......

Being able to stand with both feet flat on the ground was a huge advantage to me when I learned to ride and later on when I got my C-10 (especially with that heavy beast  ;D). 

I agree with MSF before purchasing a new or used bike.  She will start out with good training and will not need to "un-learn" any bad habits she might accidentally pick up in early training.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2017, 07:07:58 pm »
Got my girl off her Harley Dyna Lo and onto a 1999 Boston Green BMW R1100RT I had found in Iowa with 26K on it. Great bike, anal PO and with a little lower Hagon Shocks it fit her 5'4 frame. Can't say how she would have been right out of her Rider Course as she had time on a Sportster and Dyna before we met. She likes the RT much better than anything she has ever ridden.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2017, 08:51:02 am »
don't forget the 650 Ninja. Nice riding position, maybe just a little more lean than the Connie. Much lighter and a really nice looking bike.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2017, 10:33:21 am »
don't forget the 650 Ninja. Nice riding position, maybe just a little more lean than the Connie. Much lighter and a really nice looking bike.

I rode an 08 650R and really wanted it for a lighter bike around town. Great bike but the guy would not drop below 4K used. Recently read a review of the newest incarnation. 42lb lighter and some nice upgrades....one said " the new Ninja 650 is perfect for short lightweight people"

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2017, 01:40:10 pm »
The great fact is this:  this tiny gal handled my C14 like a boss  :beerchug:



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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2017, 02:12:16 pm »
My girl is going through the same thing. She's learning on a Z125Pro - which we will keep forever it's a blast. But at 5'1" she finally found her future bike. If anyone can think of a lighter and lower bike with ABS let me know. F700GS low edition BmW. $7,500 new we'll get a used one. She can flat foot it and it's a stout bike. Was a long search to find a target bike. The Z125 btw isn't even short! The 700 has a lower seat :-\

You mentioned '05 and up R bikes. Nothing wrong with that but the '94- '04 1100 and 1150 RS models are pretty awesome. Wonder if styling or what makes you like the newer ones?

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2017, 04:15:06 pm »
The 650 Ninja has the same motor as the 650 Versys, sets lower, and bags can be bought for it from Kawasaki (I think)..
Optional windshields etc are available.

When Annette (OtP Traveler) was here from Germany she rode the 650 (Cruiser) {Vulcan S}..
Again same engine as the 650 Versys, and set's low....
Liked it e'nuff that she bought one after returning home...

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2017, 08:39:30 pm »
My son had the Ninja 650R. Very fun and capable bike. I probably put as many miles on it as he did.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2017, 09:13:26 pm »
Annette rode the Vulcan S. IIRC, Jorge's wife rides a Vulcan S as well. Annette liked it so well that Bernd (her husband) bought her one for Germany.

The Ninja 650R is an excellent choice. You can get bags through Kawasaki or several aftermarket companies. Same (basic) engine as the Versys 650, just in a sportier chassis.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2017, 10:08:39 pm »


You mentioned '05 and up R bikes. Nothing wrong with that but the '94- '04 1100 and 1150 RS models are pretty awesome. Wonder if styling or what makes you like the newer ones?

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2017, 11:20:47 pm »
A mid 80s 440 Ltd would be an excellent starter bike. They are light, plentiful and cheap.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2017, 12:24:49 am »
The great thing about the Vulcan S is that you can easily customize it to fit the rider. Kawasaki offers adjustable handlebars, seat and foot pegs to fit riders of different sizes.
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2017, 04:10:13 am »
I took Ewa to sit on the Vulcan S bc I think it's a hot bike. The ergo options are cool, the motor is cool. But, she's a tough customer at 5'1" and doesn't care for forward controls. The kawi dealer sells bmw so . . . I don't know how she found this but she did while I was at the parts counter.

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2017, 08:23:31 am »
I was going to ask if Ewa had tried a cruiser for ergos. The pic of her on the Beemer versus the S makes Zgirl's point quite well. And she was not in riding boots which may add even more stability. Might need some risers with those handlebars.........

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2017, 12:27:51 am »
Fais,
That Vulcan S must have had the tall seat. Ewa is slightly taller than Irene, and has longer legs, so she should be able to flat-foo the Vulcan S. If she doesn't care for the forward controls, that's another matter. I thought she sat on Irene's at Suches?
Vulcan S is a few pounds lighter than the BMW, and has really good brakes and you can get ABS.
I think she has choices  :great:

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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2017, 02:24:59 am »
Jorge - the bmw is lighter - i posted the weight and power above the pics.

We both like the Vulcan but she just was crazy for the 700. Hey, my ex was crazy about the rear seat on a Goldwing so this is ok!

She probably did sit on Irene's. She has tried on every bike that might work for her. She is anti lowering and forward controls - so no matter how much I liked it for her she nixed it.

She might like this - still waiting to sit on one. 349lbs and $4700!
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Re: Girlfriend wants to ride
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2017, 12:30:32 pm »
Fais, the (700?) BMW she was setting on looked good.
Question: other than her current bike, does she have any experience with larger bikes?
ie; Did she lean a larger bike and supported the weight, or has she rode more powerful machine's?

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