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Offline ron203

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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2018, 05:57:37 am »
I'm probably not the best one to ask because I haven't had this one but about six months. Two of our members, Kurt Brown and Jim Culp have far more experience with them than I. Also Fred Boothe and others have extensive Wing experience as well. Maybe start a thread just for this. Kurt pulls a pop up with his. I think Jim is on Wing #2. Fred may be on #2+ also.

There are HUGE numbers of Wing forums and I've spent hours reading them. Like all internet forums, you find all the horror stories but lot of people happily riding and riding for thousands of miles. The first valve "check" on the 2008 GL 1800 is @ 32,000 miles and seems to be about $300 for the going rate. Various issues with the transmission pop up in discussion. The tranny does not shift on my Wing nearly as smoothly as my  2014 C-14. Part of that is difference in design/weight/technique/etc. I find I get smoother as the day goes by. The C-14 is just slick all the time. The Wings seem to be a little clunky and the shifting noise is  a common feature, mitigated by your technique, but still not as bad as some of the Vtwins.

Kurt told me (and I've seen it elsewhere) that the suspension needs upgrading at about 30,000 miles. I'm starting to believe that. The electronic suspension has two memory settings and like all Japanese bikes, comes set apparently for a 150# rider. I've not seen 150# since I was about 14 and push 250-260# most days plus gear. The setting range is 1-25(?) with two memory positions. I set one @ 18 and one @ 22 and it helped a lot. Typical Honda exhaust surface rust, here and there on one exhaust tip, and parts are not cheap, but what OEM parts are? Some GL's have some alternator whine but that seems to be not unusual. Could be it's just easy  to  hear  with the big fairing.

Mine's about due for fluids, hoses, etc. Tires are NOT  cheap, but I went with Dunlop E4's which are the newest heavyweight version. Oil is easy to change. Air filter, apparently not  so much. They ride and handle nicely. I DO very much like the throttle roll on/off feel. Maw Kaw could take lessons from Honda on that. I rode Hwy 28 in NC for 25 miles (constant twisties - highly recommended) in 3rd gear and it was "on/off", "on/off." No jerks, just sweet like a rheostat. Mine does not use oil and the last tank of gas (regular 87 octane!) returned 44 mpg running at 55-60 mph.  Push up to 75-80 and you get about 38. i've seen that more than once.  Not as fast or quick as a C-14, but still is quite fast and quick enough when you want to pass something or make time. I think most GL1800's top out at about 125 mph, but I don't ride it like that. Stable as a ROCK on the highway. What truck cross winds?

Mine is the "base" model 2008, whatever that's called with 29,900 or so miles now. It has a CB and AM/FM radio, neither which I use. I'd gladly trade both for ABS.  The bike overall reminds me a whole lot of a C-10 on steroids. Heavy at low speeds, but not necessarily top heavy in this case. Handles well above 20 mph. Nice "pocket" for weather protection. Sort of  hot for summer because of the big rider position pocket. A little "short in leg room for me" but  I'm 6'4" and it's okay. But my goodness is  it comfortable to eat miles. My wife says the C-14 is my bike and the Wing is OUR bike.  ;D  It's true.

There are lots of forums, but one of my favorites is "GoldWing Docs." Just google "Goldwing Forum"  and settle in for a while. Lots of these around and lots of nice owners, like this group. $8,500 is a good price, but I'd offer a few hundred less here at the end of the summer. You probably want to do a little service and maybe a new battery (easy to get to that btw on the left side - gently pull the side cover off). It mounts in 3(?) grommets) Much easier than C-14's.
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2018, 10:51:39 am »
Ron is pretty much spot on with his observations.  MOST regular services are very easy to perform. The air filter requires removing most of the plastic but it's only required every 30K so ... .  Talking with a service tech about the valve check, he says the only ones he's ever seen out of spec are ones that are regularly bounced off the rev limiter. Fred Harmon has a set of maintenance videos for it too. As far as handling is concerned, I've surprised more than a few squids in the twisties and will probably surprise more now that I've got my suspension upgraded. ;)

I'm on my second GL1800 and sometimes pull a Lee-Sure Lite pop-up camper with it. Pulls it with no difficulty but you can feel it when you're stopping. It also costs me about 4 mpg due to the increased parasitic drag.  My "normal" fuel economy is like Ron's, 42-44 mpg on regular gas. My bike is the Level 3 trim, sound, nav, comfort package (heated seat, grips), CB radio and ABS. ABS was the only thing I wanted but Honda (formerly) wouldn't put it on anything but the loaded model. :??:

The 'wing is my wife's bike, I'm just the driver.   :) We rode the first 'wing from WA state to SC (there's a ride report in the (Ride Report in the Fall 2008 issue of CONCOURIER), SC to the Grand Canyon, SC to Maine, to the Spider Ride in MO (repeated that trip with our "new to us" 'wing). It's a great mileage maker.  The wife really likes the secure feel the wrap-around backrest provides plus the stock seat is IMO great.

It is heavy, 900+ pounds for mine but the CG is really low (fuel tank is under the seat) and it goes up on the center stand more easily than my C10 did.

Just one word of warning; Do NOT take the wife on a ride on one unless you're prepared to buy one. DAMHIK, as Ron or Kurt. :rotflmao:
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2018, 11:19:18 am »
My version of MC camping vs SWMBO version
I have no idea about anything.
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2018, 12:58:02 pm »
This is the tent camper I have. Never been towed by a motorcycle since I've owned it, although my previously owned 2005 C10 pictured camped along with the VW tow vehicle. It had the extra room area added by prior owner. Not sure of the manufacturer, but it's nicely done and pulls effortlessly with the VW.
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Snowmobiles, I have a bunch.
Motorcycles-I haven't had anything except dirtbikes 30 years ago, so this will be all new to me.
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2018, 03:21:57 pm »
Any idea what it weighs?  I try to avoid towing anything that weighs 50% of my towing vehicle so anything I tow with the 'wing will weigh less than 450 pounds in towing configuration. Tongue weight 25-35 pounds.
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2018, 05:47:52 pm »
The 'wing is my wife's bike, I'm just the driver.   :)


Just one word of warning; Do NOT take the wife on a ride on one unless you're prepared to buy one. DAMHIK, as Ron or Kurt. :rotflmao:

That reminds me, one of us still needs to give Denise a ride on a Wing. David needs a(nother) bike. We've been promising her for a year now... :nananana:
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2018, 12:05:09 am »
Any idea what it weighs?  I try to avoid towing anything that weighs 50% of my towing vehicle so anything I tow with the 'wing will weigh less than 450 pounds in towing configuration. Tongue weight 25-35 pounds.

I should scale it, but I'm guessing less than 250 pounds, w/o "extra" gear stowed inside where there is plenty of room. Yes, tongue weight is very light perhaps 25 pounds.
When towing anything my concern is not how much you can pull, it's how much can you safely stop well.
Snowmobiles, I have a bunch.
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2018, 10:08:15 am »
Absolutely! That's another reason to keep the towed vehicle much lighter than the towing vehicle. Otherwise the "tail can wag the dog."
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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2018, 09:23:27 pm »
The wing gets my vote!

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Re: Going comfortable two up your thoughts
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2018, 09:01:34 am »
I found this comparison of the Wing vs. the K1600 amusing and informative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0hv0NEvXWI