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National lodging opinions
« on: September 16, 2018, 04:18:16 pm »
I am considering finally attending a national next year. So I'm thinking of the pro's and cons of staying at the campsite or doing the hotel thing. May I solicit some opinions about each? If I do the camp thing I'll probably get some sort of cabin as I don't feel like toting a tent. I like camping but I also enjoy hotel stays.

Considering this would be my first national, I will probably be in high celebratory mood. Do people tend to be more social at the camps or the hotels? I also really like hanging out at a campfire. I assume this would not be an option at the hotel.

I'm not opposed to "roughing it" but I have grown accustomed to certain amenities when I'm travelling (read toilet in a room). While not quite ancient my body does enjoy some comfort after what would be a 6 or 7 hour ride to the rally.

I've been known to do some "tippling" after a day of riding.

If you've ever been to Beaver Island, MI this is also known as "Boodling"

Met some Michigan Coggers a few years ago but really don't know anyone except through the forum.

Your opinions please. :sign0085:
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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2018, 04:31:33 pm »
I like camping because I don't like hotels.Too many over too many years (for me). You might find more people to meet and greet at Rally Central than the campground. Most people stay at the hotel, visit, imbibe - some -  :rotflmao:  This rally camping area is 11-12 miles away and Googlemaps says it's 15-20 minutes drive each way.

We're debating the same question (hotel/camp?) at the moment.

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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2018, 04:41:55 pm »
I really agree with you. Your description of your self sounds like someone I know.
And I agree the hotel probably won't allow camp fires in the room.
Most of us from Michigan are likeable and we sleep outside when ever we can.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2018, 04:55:10 pm »
I met you back at the wrench session around Flint back in 13 Richard.  Yeah, I think the campsite would probably more my cup of tea. Let me know if anyone from Michigan decides to go. I usually ride alone but wouldn't be opposed to riding with a group out there.
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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2018, 06:37:59 pm »
You asked for opinions, so, I'll be the one to say this.
    {The campers folks won't like me, but it needs mentioning}.

We prefer to Motel it.
  My old bones don't like sleeping on the ground, and the wife ain't gonna do it. Period!!
  So, "if we go", we stay in the Motel, and we "always" stay at rally central.

At other Nationals, camping may well be the best option for you.
   But, {as this is your first National} I suggest doing the same.

NOTE: I agree; There is not as much fellowship at the Motel at night, but there is a lot..
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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2018, 02:21:05 pm »
Ya, Smooth Operator, my seat vibrates! Someday I will get that fixed.
Will do, about letting you know. Did you make it to Stockbridge this
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2018, 10:46:07 pm »
my personal opinion, of the upcoming event, is do what you can afford.
Having done the camping, and the hotel, and the hotel next door, thing... pick one.
If you intend to drink... and I don't say this lightly... do not do the camping thing, and decide on site you wanna 'party yer azz off..', and I say this in sincerity. I don't want to see anyone in jail, or crashed out, because they "couldn't say no" to imbibing in front of the Hotel... which when I'm posed with the friends I've made, and stories are being told... will occur.
GAR UN TEEED... especially in PA., at this venue.
this is PA., weather is never a thing you can trust, we that have done this stuff here, will say toss a coin about rain, or shine.. and don't think 20 minutes later, it won't be raining.. just geographical odds.. but then, you could go all week without a hint of rain... there is a mountainous area right adjacent to the host town.. and those hills generate weather..

I would love to camp (I simply love camping all over PA) and the cost savings would be great, but this time I'm saving money, to be at rally central, or an adjacent (walking distance) one, to allow fun and frolic, without riding anywhere when the "blender starts whirring" so to speak... (it's a tradition... and we also pull all the furniture out of the lobby, and into the carport overhead in front... and never get kicked  out..)
Yet.

wait a while, see what avenues there are for affordable ( the host hotel IS very affordable, as venues go.. after seeing the past $$$ venues), and decide then.
I stayed at a nice hotel accross the street from the Johnson City rally, and could walk to hang with my pals in less than 5 minutes, and also had an AWESOME Thai restaurant in the hotel, coupled with a bar that served till the weeeeeee hours... I kinda liked it, as it was secluded, but very accessable... :great: :great:  Oh, and NOT having to listen to a bunch of early risers firing up bikes at 6:45 a.m., and idleing them for 15 minutes, while shouting back and forth about "where are we going...?", was .... priceless... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 09:27:08 pm »
the Campground is 20 minutes away...……..

The Genetti is a very nice venue in the heart of town.
Room rate includes FULL HOT BREAKFAST BUFFET. 
There are many restaurants, bars and attractions within walking distance of the Hotel.

The parking lot may not have a camp fire but it will have people enjoying adult beverages and playing stupid games like Giant Jenga!

You'll have fun wherever you stay.
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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 09:34:42 pm »
Ya, Smooth Operator, my seat vibrates! Someday I will get that fixed.
Will do, about letting you know. Did you make it to Stockbridge this
past Sunday?

Nope, Had to work as usual. But I'm committing myself to make at least one Michigan event next year. Even if I have to get sick to miss work! (cough, cough( :great:
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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2018, 09:50:31 pm »
my personal opinion, of the upcoming event, is do what you can afford.
Having done the camping, and the hotel, and the hotel next door, thing... pick one.
If you intend to drink... and I don't say this lightly... do not do the camping thing, and decide on site you wanna 'party yer azz off..', and I say this in sincerity. I don't want to see anyone in jail, or crashed out, because they "couldn't say no" to imbibing in front of the Hotel... which when I'm posed with the friends I've made, and stories are being told... will occur.
GAR UN TEEED... especially in PA., at this venue.
this is PA., weather is never a thing you can trust, we that have done this stuff here, will say toss a coin about rain, or shine.. and don't think 20 minutes later, it won't be raining.. just geographical odds.. but then, you could go all week without a hint of rain... there is a mountainous area right adjacent to the host town.. and those hills generate weather..

I would love to camp (I simply love camping all over PA) and the cost savings would be great, but this time I'm saving money, to be at rally central, or an adjacent (walking distance) one, to allow fun and frolic, without riding anywhere when the "blender starts whirring" so to speak... (it's a tradition... and we also pull all the furniture out of the lobby, and into the carport overhead in front... and never get kicked  out..)
Yet.

wait a while, see what avenues there are for affordable ( the host hotel IS very affordable, as venues go.. after seeing the past $$$ venues), and decide then.
I stayed at a nice hotel accross the street from the Johnson City rally, and could walk to hang with my pals in less than 5 minutes, and also had an AWESOME Thai restaurant in the hotel, coupled with a bar that served till the weeeeeee hours... I kinda liked it, as it was secluded, but very accessable... :great: :great:  Oh, and NOT having to listen to a bunch of early risers firing up bikes at 6:45 a.m., and idleing them for 15 minutes, while shouting back and forth about "where are we going...?", was .... priceless... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Thx MOB, Your point about the early risers is well taken. :a012: I'm still up in the air about which way to go. But rest assured I won't be "tying one on" then switching locations to hit the hay. Not worth the hassle, danger and risk. Wise imbibers frown on such foolish activities. I've been around long enough to know when it's best to stay put. :06: :party0036: :motonoises: :beerchug: :great:
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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 01:23:54 am »
I like camping because I don't like hotels.Too many over too many years (for me). You might find more people to meet and greet at Rally Central than the campground. Most people stay at the hotel, visit, imbibe - some -  :rotflmao:  This rally camping area is 11-12 miles away and Googlemaps says it's 15-20 minutes drive each way.

We're debating the same question (hotel/camp?) at the moment.

(My camper has a toilet, shower, queen sized memory foam bed, kitchen, and garage. SWMBO does not do tents.) ;D

I already made the reservation at the hotel.   ;)

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2018, 11:47:51 am »
I have made it I point to stay in Williamsport several times just to ride and enjoy the downtown food and vibe.  I did it again this weekend.  The riding in that area is superb, and it’s hard not to keep riding the same roads.  But there are so many choices, and it’s all good.  If you go north out of Williamsport, they just paved a long section of Route 973 to route 44, and going north from there is awesome.  I also tried a southern loop this time and found Routes 477, 192 and 445.  I’ll try to make up some loops for the national. 

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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2018, 01:15:58 pm »
Recently decided to make room in my schedule for Williamsport.  Really looking forward to meeting more great COG folk outside of the SE.  Since I grew up in the NE, also looking forward to getting back on some roads I haven't ridden since my 20s.

I will be tent camping.  Because camping with COG is awesome, and it will be an expensive trip from south fla to begin with.  I'd be spending way too much $$$ on booze and eats at RC/downtown.  Plus the florescent lighting of hotels makes me sleepy...more energy at the campground....IMHO.

Has anyone mentioned/used Uber in the area? I will be budgeting for some evening Uber trips to RC to meet/greet/partake. How bout cell service...Verizon?

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2018, 04:10:53 pm »
Recently decided to make room in my schedule for Williamsport.  Really looking forward to meeting more great COG folk outside of the SE.  Since I grew up in the NE, also looking forward to getting back on some roads I haven't ridden since my 20s.

I will be tent camping.  Because camping with COG is awesome, and it will be an expensive trip from south fla to begin with.  I'd be spending way too much $$$ on booze and eats at RC/downtown.  Plus the florescent lighting of hotels makes me sleepy...more energy at the campground....IMHO.

Has anyone mentioned/used Uber in the area? I will be budgeting for some evening Uber trips to RC to meet/greet/partake. How bout cell service...Verizon?

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Re: National lodging opinions
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2018, 06:42:27 pm »
Recently decided to make room in my schedule for Williamsport.  Really looking forward to meeting more great COG folk outside of the SE.  Since I grew up in the NE, also looking forward to getting back on some roads I haven't ridden since my 20s.

I will be tent camping.  Because camping with COG is awesome, and it will be an expensive trip from south fla to begin with.  I'd be spending way too much $$$ on booze and eats at RC/downtown.  Plus the florescent lighting of hotels makes me sleepy...more energy at the campground....IMHO.

Has anyone mentioned/used Uber in the area? I will be budgeting for some evening Uber trips to RC to meet/greet/partake. How bout cell service...Verizon?

Thanks  :beerchug:

I'm sure there is Uber in Williamsport. I'll be there this weekend and test it.
Great idea.
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« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2018, 08:38:44 pm »
I figured Taxi's in the area would be an option, but the biggest one doesn't get very good revues..
but there are other options...

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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2018, 09:04:15 pm »
Hadn't thought of cabbing it back from the campground. Great idea! I think I'm just about decided.

an amusing side note. When we used to go camping as a family when I was a kid, my mom always had a question.

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« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2018, 01:23:34 am »
Stopped at the campground this weekend...……

Grass looks nice.

Walking distance to Pizza Shop, Convenience store, beer store and restaurant. this is in addition to the Bar/Restaurant onsite at the campground.

Nice backroad ride coming south out of the campground back to Williamsport.

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« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2018, 05:30:28 pm »
I seem to remember at one of the rally's a courtesy van that provided transport to and from the campground and the hotel, Johnson City TN?, but I think it was only a one night deal for the rally dinner Saturday night.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2018, 06:48:06 pm »
There was a courtesy van one night for the Backyard/Helen Nat.
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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2018, 01:25:11 am »
Me and the woman are going to ruff it,,, trying to have her father bring his motor home to the closest campground for us!
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« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2018, 04:05:11 pm »
There was a courtesy van one night for the Backyar
d/Helen Nat.

There won't be a courtesy van organized by the rally team.

Those choosing to camp or stay elsewhere other than in town will have to make their own arrangements!

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« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2018, 06:38:24 pm »
There was a courtesy van one night for the Backyard/Helen Nat.

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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2018, 01:20:19 am »
Recently decided to make room in my schedule for Williamsport.  Really looking forward to meeting more great COG folk outside of the SE.  Since I grew up in the NE, also looking forward to getting back on some roads I haven't ridden since my 20s.

I will be tent camping.  Because camping with COG is awesome, and it will be an expensive trip from south fla to begin with.  I'd be spending way too much $$$ on booze and eats at RC/downtown.  Plus the florescent lighting of hotels makes me sleepy...more energy at the campground....IMHO.

Has anyone mentioned/used Uber in the area? I will be budgeting for some evening Uber trips to RC to meet/greet/partake. How bout cell service...Verizon?

Thanks  :beerchug:
Ill be at the campground as well. And will have my truck going back and forth at night. And Jen doesn't drink,,, 
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2019, 12:56:45 pm »
Personally. I've done both, but for longer events, such as a National, I prefer a room...... and I've already reserved mine at the Genetti.

Oh yeah, the "Public House" caddy-corner from the hotel can be, uh, intoxicating.   :beerchug:
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