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Concours C10 / ZG1000 General Chat and Tech / Re: oil capacity
« Last post by MAN OF BLUES on Today at 09:36:07 pm »
MOB, I drain from both drains. My window still gets full at about 2.5 qts. What am I doing wrong? Only thing, I just never warm up my bike before draining. It sits overnight and to me that is good enough.

I have no idea.  2.5 quarts = 2.36 Litres.. that is not enough, by the book...with or without a new filter...
I do my changes with the bike cool also and sitting on the centerstand..
drain, remove filter, prefill spin on, and use the quantities I noted above...

the book says:
2.7 litres with no filter change (I never change oil without filter' but that is equal to 2 qt's + 27 oz.)
3.0 litres with a filter change  (3 Qt's + 5 oz)

and that's what I've always done,pre SPOOFAK and after SPOOFAK; and my fill line is right on the money after running the bike, and it is sitting tires on the ground.

YMMV.
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it was silly for people to trust someone that has no historic background to fall upon..


Maybe you guys could use Paypal for the cost of the tool until it gets returned, kind of like what Autozone does with their tool loaner program. If the tool is not returned, then they bought it and you have the money to replace it.

Just a thought.


great concept... but really not worth the time and effort, and it only matters to keep honest people honest....
unless you have ever tried to "resolve" a monetary issue with PayPal, you wouldn't understand, it becomes a chore that is both time consuming, and redundantly infuriating.
Add in the PayPal chargese for both accepting funds, and refunding people, and also the postage, and probability it will get lost in the mail at some point, or someone will say it did,
for the cost of a tool, you would spend 10x in Hokum, over the whole process...

but if you want to buy a tool, and go thru the process, and keep track of it, your efforts would be applauded. :beerchug:

I'm not that generous anymore. >:(

ya kinda lost me when you said "Maybe you guys could use ....."

Many years ago, we actually discussed creating a valve shim trading program, where we could "create" a bank of shims, and people could trade back and forth thru it, pull 5 shims, send back 5 shims....
well, we discovered that wouldn't work either... just too many "in and out drifters", with no affiliation, or scruples to contend with. Sad, but True.

and when I say "Drifters", I mean people like this... it was a big mistake for sure, the handwriting on the wall and hindsight are both 20/20
http://forum.cog-online.org/concours-14-zg1400-general-chat-and-tech/traveling-steering-head-bearing-tool/msg551255/#msg551255
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South Central Events / Re: "Final Fall Fling" Ride
« Last post by Jim Snyder on Today at 08:15:31 pm »
If you call to reserve a room please ask for the COG rooms that I have blocked off. If I need to I can block off a few more.
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South Central Events / Re: "Final Fall Fling" Ride
« Last post by Jim Snyder on Today at 08:09:15 pm »
Well as far as I know, the NC group has reserved 3 rooms thus far. Not sure who all you have coming right now.
By the way, I would entertain the possibility of a room-mate.

Several of us are sharing a room.
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Concours C10 / ZG1000 General Chat and Tech / Re: oil capacity
« Last post by CaffeineMan on Today at 07:00:50 pm »
  CaffeineMan got me after all these yrs. I have spelled "SPOOFAK" wrong these yrs. Well I ain't gonna change it after all this time!! ::)

SPOOKFAK looks better anyways.  I'm just being a pest...  Couldn't resist...  ;D ;D ;D
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Southwest Events / Re: November ride?
« Last post by CaffeineMan on Today at 06:58:56 pm »
Do we have lodging yet?   :pokestick:

Only 2-1/2 weeks to go.   ;D
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Concours C10 / ZG1000 General Chat and Tech / Re: oil capacity
« Last post by DC Concours on Today at 06:41:06 pm »
MOB, I drain from both drains. My window still gets full at about 2.5 qts. What am I doing wrong? Only thing, I just never warm up my bike before draining. It sits overnight and to me that is good enough.

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Concours C10 / ZG1000 General Chat and Tech / Re: oil capacity
« Last post by MAN OF BLUES on Today at 06:37:11 pm »
It takes more if you have the SPOOFAK kit depending on which filter you use (Search the forum for that) and a spin on oil filter, but that's still too much. If you have the OEM set up, 3 is all you need.

I can't say that the filter makes a big difference, but I installed SPOOFAK's on both my bikes, and using the long or short Purolater filter made little difference...
after draining from BOTH drain plugs, and using a new filter, I prefill the filter from a fresh quart, Install the filter, dump the remaining oil in, and follow it with 2 more quarts, and 5 ounces.... and never worry... that is actually the correct oil level in the book, based on Liter amount noted, and it always comes up correct in my oil window...  so my opinion is 3 quarts + 5 ounces...
I have never 'added oil' by using the window as a 'gauge', I just use that as verification the oil is in there, and at the line.

YMMV
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Introductions / Re: Hey there from sunny Florida
« Last post by SteveJ. on Today at 06:36:29 pm »
Welcome aboard from onna The Florida Steves.

What part of Flowriduh? It's a big state. I live in Lake County.

Happy hunting.
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I checked all the microfiche web sites in the UK and other countries, always selecting the UK variations where possible and they all showed p/n92049-1416 as being the correct oil seal part.  I spoke to a couple of dealers direct and they also thought that it should be the correct part.  However, I have 3 water pumps from 3 different engines (1991 A5, 1994 A9 and 1995 A9) all using a smaller oil seal.

I then called a seal and bearing specialist who advised to look closely at the seals I have got and on 2 of them a serial no. ‘S12257L’ was embossed on the inner face.  He identified that this was in fact 12mm inner diameter, 25mm outer diameter and 7mm thick.  I ordered the seal and it was a perfect match and good fit.  Construction of the seal was also identical to the original item.

Happy days, now I just need to get the rest of the cooling system back together.

 :great: :great: :great:

congrats, glad you got hooked up...
as for the seals, this was the FIRST time this ever came up that I know of in 15 years of Concours ownership, and I was the Tech Editor for a while, so I'm very surprised.

Now I have to go and check the seals I have, to see what they are, and if they are marked in a similar manner, both new ones, and the ones I pulled during replacements.

that number you supplied definatly does describe the size, and I never disputed it, just never had it come up..
great job, thanks for your info also... :great: :great: :great: :great: :great: :great: :beerchug: :beerchug:
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