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Got a passive key from the local dealership today. I really don't like going to dealerships. I know the part's $27 on partzilla.com and I know the dealership is going to want more. They want $32. OK, whatever.

If you are in the Atlanta area, you usually have to go through Mountain Motorsports as they have a couple locations and they are the closest Kawi dealership to the city. I call their Marietta location. Ask how much it'd be to program the ECU to my bike they say $110, which I had read somewhere on the forum before. I figured I'd ask around and gave their Lithia Springs location a call. Programming an ECU, $38.  :-\ So instead of a total cost of $150, it was going to be half that. Awesome. I order the key through their parts department. It's very interesting how the same company charges two different price for the same service. But of course I didn't mention that to the person on the phone.

This morning, I head over to the dealership first thing. Get there, pick up my part from the parts department, go to the service department, ask them to program it, no problem. I sign the thing, give them both keys. The service guy takes the key to the mechanic. Comes back a minute later, tells me this isn't a fob that'll run the bike, it's what the spare key goes into. Just a key holder. I tell him he's wrong, it's an RFID thing and it starts the bike, it just needs to be programmed to the ECU. He goes back in, the mechanic comes out and tells me the same thing. I tell them it's an RFID key, like a barcode. it's a passive key. They look at me like I have 6 eyes. The service guy tells the mechanic that he's on his side in the matter. I have no idea what this means. They are trying to form an ally against the crazy guy who thinks a $30 piece of plastic is actually a key? The mechanic says he's never heard of something like that and that he'd have to do research on it. So I ask him to please do the "research" while I go to talk to the parts department. He's not happy with my request. I go back to the parts guy to ask him if the key came with a number or anything to put in the Kawasaki program. He goes and talks to the mechanics while I google how the programming works. 10 minutes later, parts guy comes back to tell me they figured it out. I pay the money and hop on my bike and leave.

The system's only been out for 10 years. I guess it's normal that they've no idea how to program it. I'll try again in 10 years.

well, after reading this exact posting on the other forum... I just went ahead and copy/pasted it here also, as it should be shared knowledge, and a lot of folks don't follow both forums...

here

sad the mentally lacking tech people expected to operate the machine to 'program' said installed, and other parts, simply can't or don't read the book... or the screen in this case, for the CD that came with the KDS software...

I found, and downloaded the KAWASAKI DIAGNOSTIC SYSTEM KDS VER. 3 INSTRUCTION MANUAL Dated 12/2009, Version 3.0.9
(kawasaki p/n 57001-1650)

it comes on the actual software disc, that came with the KDS unit....duh.
 completely free online... can't remember where, nor would I send out copies, as it is marked as copywritten...
But... it completely, step by step, walks thru all the programming.
I've found it priceless in researching 'what is/is not' required for replacement of any part that ties into the "smart parts" of this bike...

might want to highlight, and print that 'bold letter stuff', and hand carry it to the OWNER of that dealership.. and he can hand it to the "tech".....

having noted this, they should also have the newer versions, that accomodate the linked brakes, and new passive 'card' fob...

I think it is now
Manufacturer # 57001-1802

Superseded part number(s)
57001-1650

google it up.



Thanks for the info MOB.
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Hey Roger,

I agree, its a great bike but the seat has something left to be desired.
I have a Saergent seat on my 2011 and do have discomfort after about 200 miles.  Solved my problem by placing a small $5 inflatable travel pillow with a little bit of air on the seat. Its not the most elegant solution but it provides some relief after reaching about 200 miles.   I have yet to try a Russell Day Long.

Anyways, I'm a native Clevelander  now in Texas; mid 90s is unusually hot this time of year up that way.
However in Texas, it does not cool down in the evening; it will be pitch dark and still 90+ degrees.
Anyways, Go Tribe!


I have an Airhawk I should of used for the day but didn't think of it.   Go Tribe, Cavs, and Browns!

Dean
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Concours 14 / ZG1400 General Chat and Tech / Re: New Member, New Bike
« Last post by Eric on Today at 02:46:18 pm »
I took delivery of my new (0 miles) 2012 from my local dealer last week.  The only issue so far has been the fuel pump, which wouldn't even try to run when the dealer first put fuel in it.  I had a front TPMS low battery alarm on the first ride, but nothing since.  Tires look ok, brake and clutch fluid look good, so I'm going with it for now.  For your tank to be so rusty the storage conditions must have been terrible!
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Yes the stock seat is horrible to many.  The foam and shape of the set is for looks and compresses to the seat pan in a short amount of time.

The idea mfg's have of slanting seats forward is counter-intuitive for comfort.  May look cool and racy but its slanted exactly the wrong way. 

I tried a bunch of seats and the Russell is absolutely the best for me.  The slant is right and the shape of it - much like a tractor seat - is ideal.

It also really helps me to wear synthetic wicking material for undies and pants / shorts under my mesh riding pants.

Cotton is awful once you start perspiring - that damp cotton will pinch and pull miserably.


Yea, it pinched and pulled miserably, was wearing 100% cotton everything.   Had me looking at new bikes yesterday, no kidding, went to the local dealership.   I went home after and washed the bugs off of mine from the night before and sat next to it admiring it and realized what a nice bike I already have.   I think the C14 is a wonderful looking machine.   Nothing different needed just need to fix my seat issue.
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Hey Roger,

I agree, its a great bike but the seat has something left to be desired.
I have a Saergent seat on my 2011 and do have discomfort after about 200 miles.  Solved my problem by placing a small $5 inflatable travel pillow with a little bit of air on the seat. Its not the most elegant solution but it provides some relief after reaching about 200 miles.   I have yet to try a Russell Day Long.

Anyways, I'm a native Clevelander  now in Texas; mid 90s is unusually hot this time of year up that way.
However in Texas, it does not cool down in the evening; it will be pitch dark and still 90+ degrees.
Anyways, Go Tribe!

Dean
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yes do smell  gas and 2 backfies
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Complete brake caliper rebuild for all three calipers.
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Concours 14 / ZG1400 General Chat and Tech / Re: New Member, New Bike
« Last post by yamahavrod on Today at 02:20:55 pm »
Thank you for the info on the batteries.

I am sure the dealer will address my issues. I have had really good service from them in the past. Just too bad they didn't address them before I took delivery.
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Here's my other toy.  A blast to ride, I love the V-twin torque, but my wrists are hurting after 30 minutes...
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Do you smell raw gas coming from the mufflers right after cranking? If not I also think you may need to check valve clearances.

Vacuum hoses/caps in place on the throttle bodies?

MOB strongly recommends against using starter fluid as it will damage the rubber diaphragms in the carbs.
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