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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2016, 03:08:00 pm »
Well, I'm intrigued by this Kabuto, so I search for the hi-vis Yellow in MED and found this:

https://www.2wheel.com/kabuto-ibuki-modular-helmet-grp_100563.html

Seems like all colors and sizes available.
$248.82
FREE shipping
I couldn't resist, bought.... :-[
Never heard of this outfit, but They even gave me $10.00 bucks reward cash towards my next purchase.

Nice link NYB. Ordered and even was able to use my $10 immediately. Revzilla has it for $100 more and they say it's $100 off?

Hey Mike, this better be a great helmet :)  :))

With so many comparisons to the Neotech and it's "made in Japan" DNA, my curiosity did the Vulcan neck pinch to my wallet. I got the MED which is most likely to fit anyway, But I hate manufacturers that use a single shell/mold for everyone creating the bobble-head effect for average sized noggins...besides, it only seems logical that a larger helmet would produce more turbulence and noise. Kabuto does utilize 2 sizes of the exterior shell, to its credit. I've never experienced a quiet modular in reality, this will be my fifth try, with my Lazer Monaco Carbon being the best so far- but I've yet to try the Neotech- the yardstick by which all mods seem to be measured against.

Also, I've always been up for the Pepsi challenge, or the 95% of performance at half the cost mentality.
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2016, 05:24:37 pm »
Well thank you for sharing this as Revzilla was able to price match my order ! :beerchug:
Well, I'm intrigued by this Kabuto, so I search for the hi-vis Yellow in MED and found this:

https://www.2wheel.com/kabuto-ibuki-modular-helmet-grp_100563.html

Seems like all colors and sizes available.
$248.82
FREE shipping
I couldn't resist, bought.... :-[
Never heard of this outfit, but They even gave me $10.00 bucks reward cash towards my next purchase.
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2016, 08:01:04 pm »
Well, I'm intrigued by this Kabuto, so I search for the hi-vis Yellow in MED and found this:

https://www.2wheel.com/kabuto-ibuki-modular-helmet-grp_100563.html

Seems like all colors and sizes available.
$248.82
FREE shipping
I couldn't resist, bought.... :-[
Never heard of this outfit, but They even gave me $10.00 bucks reward cash towards my next purchase.

Nice link NYB. Ordered and even was able to use my $10 immediately. Revzilla has it for $100 more and they say it's $100 off?

Hey Mike, this better be a great helmet :)  :))

I hope so too Fais :??: I bought the Ibuki after riding with the Shark Evoline 3 and the Ibuki is a better helmet. I really hope you like your as much as I like mine!

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2016, 11:05:36 am »
 :beerchug: just messing with you Mike ;D

It seems we have both been through almost every windscreen and ended up back with VStreams.  I even bought a damaged VStream to cut down to a summer shield  :great: So, if this helmet works for you behind the air of the same screen I use I'm willing to try it. My Neotec has 25,000mi on it in 9 months and it has been LOUD. And the screen has been too short; never know where center is. So, we are all different and different combos work differently. If you look at reviews the majority of people LOVE their Neotec. I guess we aren't all alike?! ;D ;D




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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2016, 12:03:17 pm »
Everybody chases the noise issue around the bike with windscreens, vents, holes and then tries a helmet.

One word, earplugs!



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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2016, 12:15:43 pm »
Fais, so true about the Neotech. It's puzzling to me why the Neotech is much quieter with the face shield fully up than with it being fully down. But with no bug splat protection, that's not an option.

One time I rode my C14 without the windshield to buy parts at the local Kawi dealership. I was amazed at how quiet the ride was. It also made the bike "feel" more nimble, in my mind. But again, not a good option with no bug splat protection. Plus, I've got neck issues that would prevent me from riding without wind protection for very long.

The one thing I did like about my test ride of a K1600 GTL was that the windshield went much higher than I needed it to for a quiet ride with great wind protection.

I've got the biggest windshield that Cee Bailey makes, and at the size of a barn door, I still need it to be 2" to 4" taller to provide the same quiet space of the Beemer.
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2016, 12:33:10 pm »
Everybody chases the noise issue around the bike with windscreens, vents, holes and then tries a helmet.

One word, earplugs!

I haven't ridden without earplugs in 20 years:) The same ones I use while drumming - LG Tones - are the best I've ever had.

Just read some articles on the Iron Butt site about wind noise. The guy who owns Aeroflow is an Iron Butt guy and he posted some interesting thoughts. Bigger screen = more noise; for example. His Concours screen is curved out far away from the dash as much as possible - so you get some of the clean air one can feel by riding for a mile without a windscreen. Also the reasoning behind my VStream modding.

It would be nice if the C14 looked as good as it feels without the windscreen. I could live with some bugs in the summer to have that clean air . . . what a great, quiet ride the C14 is with no screen.

The Aeroflow guy has been modding helmets - but to little avail - it seems the helmet can handle the wind blast from one direction - probably like the wind tunnel they test them in But, when we put a big screen on, and add a tailbag, etc, we are dealing with air swirling(whistling) in lots of directions all around us.

Best helmet I had was three helmets ago - the original Nolan flip-up. SHOEIs are good quality = safe. But I have high hopes for this Kabuki based on the reviews by sport tourers who previously had a Neotec. I mean the whistle that comes in around the ears on the Neotec will not be missed.

BTW - I saw an ADV Rider link where a guy had stuffed extra insulation behind the ear-pads of his helmets for reduced noise. That looked like a worthy ten minute project. It's just the things you dial in when you ride long days often. To each their own. I suppose I could slow down, or get a Camry. But, I'll keep getting better at touring on my motorcycle in my own little ways :great:
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2016, 12:36:15 pm »
Everybody chases the noise issue around the bike with windscreens, vents, holes and then tries a helmet.

One word, earplugs!
Nicole, I do use earplugs and my Neotech is still loud. I'm willing to try the Kabuto at 1/2 the price of a Neotech.

Mike, thanks for starting this thread! Good info! Now to see if Cycle Gear carries them so I can get the right fit.
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2016, 12:40:26 pm »
Everybody chases the noise issue around the bike with windscreens, vents, holes and then tries a helmet.

One word, earplugs!

Don't you have an aftermarket windscreen, which vents by bulging out allowing air in behind it, and a nice helmet?

Oh, and doesn't the GIVI screen have holes? And the MRA Vario? And the 2015 and up Kawi screen have holes/vents. . .

Some of us are very happy with the way things are yet still look for improvement. Progress!!

Jim, Cycle Gear doesn't have them (online anyway, I looked) - I also wanted to try one on first . . .

 :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

Next year, I might even get an even better helmet :great:

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2016, 02:16:38 pm »
Everybody chases the noise issue around the bike with windscreens, vents, holes and then tries a helmet.

One word, earplugs!

Don't you have an aftermarket windscreen, which vents by bulging out allowing air in behind it, and a nice helmet?

Oh, and doesn't the GIVI screen have holes? And the MRA Vario? And the 2015 and up Kawi screen have holes/vents. . .

Some of us are very happy with the way things are yet still look for improvement. Progress!!

Jim, Cycle Gear doesn't have them (online anyway, I looked) - I also wanted to try one on first . . .

 :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

Next year, I might even get an even better helmet :great:

Im not looking to start an arguement on whats better, rather just offering my input on what works for me. I just simply stuff my earplugs in my ears and listen to the crazy voices that I hear in my head.

Your completely correct, I have an aftermarket windscreen, but dont know about bulging airflow. I believe it has the same curvature as the stock. I chose my screen for it looks and not the function. The CB is the only one out there that offers a dark tint.

As far as my helmet, I have a Shoei RF 1200. I dont have facts on this, but I would imaging that it has the same airflow characteristics as the Neo tech, so the same noise levels as well?

 
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2016, 02:29:09 pm »
^^^^ heck no! Modulars suck more when it comes to airflow. We might be stubborn to not wear a good helmet like yours.

And check out the way your windscreen bulges out in front to scoop air behind it. Very nice :great:

No argument. Just a comment about earplugs in a helmet thread where we all have tried every windscreen, and are buying helmets every few years, we have surely tried earplugs.

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I'm sensitive and argumentative tho - so BRING IT  :))
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2016, 03:26:45 pm »
:beerchug: just messing with you Mike ;D

It seems we have both been through almost every windscreen and ended up back with VStreams.  I even bought a damaged VStream to cut down to a summer shield  :great: So, if this helmet works for you behind the air of the same screen I use I'm willing to try it. My Neotec has 25,000mi on it in 9 months and it has been LOUD. And the screen has been too short; never know where center is. So, we are all different and different combos work differently. If you look at reviews the majority of people LOVE their Neotec. I guess we aren't all alike?! ;D ;D

I know you're messin' with me but I still hope you like it as much as I do :great:!

Now, I LOVE my VStream but it was still noisy...until I added the MRA XCreen spoiler to it and that solved the noise issue! Adding the spoiler was the best solution to the whole "windscreen" battle yet! :) So much so that when I get the new bike in about a year I will add the MRA spoiler to the stock screen and call it good :beerchug:!

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2016, 03:30:49 pm »
Everybody chases the noise issue around the bike with windscreens, vents, holes and then tries a helmet.

One word, earplugs!
Nicole, I do use earplugs and my Neotech is still loud. I'm willing to try the Kabuto at 1/2 the price of a Neotech.

Mike, thanks for starting this thread! Good info! Now to see if Cycle Gear carries them so I can get the right fit.

Hi Jim and I'm glad you appreciate the thread! Unfortunately Cycle Gear doesn't carry the Ibuki. I looked all over when I was buying mine. I found it at a Honda dealership in North Hollywood so I made the 1.5 hour drive through Los Angeles traffic on a FRIDAY so I could try it on! It was definitely worth the drive!

Order 2 sizes from Revzilla and try them on and then return the one that doesn't fit. They cover the return shipping on your first order.

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2016, 06:43:07 pm »
I looked all over when I was buying mine. I found it at a Honda dealership in North Hollywood so I made the 1.5 hour drive through Los Angeles traffic on a FRIDAY so I could try it on! It was definitely worth the drive!

I was much luckier, Mike.  I did the "Find a Dealer" search on the Kabuto USA website, and found three in my hometown.  Might just have to check them out.   :great:
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2016, 07:49:12 pm »
I looked all over when I was buying mine. I found it at a Honda dealership in North Hollywood so I made the 1.5 hour drive through Los Angeles traffic on a FRIDAY so I could try it on! It was definitely worth the drive!

I was much luckier, Mike.  I did the "Find a Dealer" search on the Kabuto USA website, and found three in my hometown.  Might just have to check them out.   :great:

Sweet! You're fortunate because dealers that carry the helmet are few and far between!

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2016, 08:13:48 pm »
I looked all over when I was buying mine. I found it at a Honda dealership in North Hollywood so I made the 1.5 hour drive through Los Angeles traffic on a FRIDAY so I could try it on! It was definitely worth the drive!

I was much luckier, Mike.  I did the "Find a Dealer" search on the Kabuto USA website, and found three in my hometown.  Might just have to check them out.   :great:

If they stock some different sized pads you should be in really good shape. Take the price with you from the link in this thread and maybe they'll match $248 too! Great resource 'find a local dealer' I did not use. Good one :beerchug:
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2016, 11:24:25 pm »
Fais, I'm very interested to know your thoughts of how the Ibuki compares with the Neotech. Please include your comments after you receive it. Thanks!
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2016, 11:38:08 pm »
Fais, I'm very interested to know your thoughts of how the Ibuki compares with the Neotech. Please include your comments after you receive it. Thanks!


Jim, I can tell you how they compare...Ibuki fit and Neotech didn't. How's that for a comparison? Neotech wouldn't fit my head in that it had a lot of hot spots when wearing it. The Ibuki's fit and comfort were great right out of the box!

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2016, 12:55:54 am »
Jim, I can tell you how they compare...Ibuki fit and Neotech didn't. How's that for a comparison? Neotech wouldn't fit my head in that it had a lot of hot spots when wearing it. The Ibuki's fit and comfort were great right out of the box!
Thanks, Mike. I'm particularly interested in whether or not it's quieter than the Neotech. I found a motorcycle shop about 20 miles away that sells them, so I'll probably visit it and see how it fits me. One review I read about the helmet is that the sun shield slider knob can interfere with the com device placement on the left side. Plus, some folks prefer a D-ring versus a ratchet-type chin strap. I have no preference, so that's no big deal to me.
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2016, 02:30:23 am »
Jim, I can tell you how they compare...Ibuki fit and Neotech didn't. How's that for a comparison? Neotech wouldn't fit my head in that it had a lot of hot spots when wearing it. The Ibuki's fit and comfort were great right out of the box!
Thanks, Mike. I'm particularly interested in whether or not it's quieter than the Neotech. I found a motorcycle shop about 20 miles away that sells them, so I'll probably visit it and see how it fits me. One review I read about the helmet is that the sun shield slider knob can interfere with the com device placement on the left side. Plus, some folks prefer a D-ring versus a ratchet-type chin strap. I have no preference, so that's no big deal to me.

My pleasure Jim!

I can tell you it's quieter than the Shark Evoline 3 I was wearing. Also, the "Wake Stabilizer" on the helmet really helps smooth out the air no matter which way your head is turned! Opening the vents up top is like rolling down the windows...loud so don't expect quiet when they're open but they do vent very well!

I have my comms mounted on the left side of my helmet and have ZERO issues activating my sun screen lever. It's never been an issue. I have the SENA SMH10 mounted there and it works great!

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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2016, 04:32:55 am »
Thanks, Mike. Great comments!
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2016, 04:33:11 am »
I had a meeting about 45 minutes away this evening. It was the first ride since I can remember without the tail-bag. Wow, it was quieter than quiet.

When I traded in old Betty for new I didn't have the tail bag but I had the stock screen, so there was a difference today that makes me rethink my packing strategy. I might ditch the tail bag and gear behind me and switch to having everything behind me.

Anyway, was thinking of some posts here and all the pages of stuff I read the other night when I should have been doing other stuff  :-[ lol.

I could have my helmet as soon as Wed - I'll hope to report good news soon  :great:
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2016, 11:42:13 am »
Jim, I can tell you how they compare...Ibuki fit and Neotech didn't. How's that for a comparison? Neotech wouldn't fit my head in that it had a lot of hot spots when wearing it. The Ibuki's fit and comfort were great right out of the box!

Crap!   I've got a Shoei shaped head and my Neotec fits perfectly.  Which by your description means the Ibuki probably will not.  I'll check them out anyway, but my optimism definitely has taken a hit.    :(
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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2016, 03:17:41 pm »
Jim, I can tell you how they compare...Ibuki fit and Neotech didn't. How's that for a comparison? Neotech wouldn't fit my head in that it had a lot of hot spots when wearing it. The Ibuki's fit and comfort were great right out of the box!

Crap!   I've got a Shoei shaped head and my Neotec fits perfectly.  Which by your description means the Ibuki probably will not.  I'll check them out anyway, but my optimism definitely has taken a hit.    :(

Haha...Solomookie, the Shoei issue on my head could have been a "padding" issue. The word is the Ibuki fits along the lines of the Shoei but for me was much more comfortable than the Shoei I tried on.

BTW, I just noticed my name for the forum was "Mike" and is now "MikeB_CA"...when did that happen :o?

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Re: New Helmet, New Experience
« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2016, 03:19:21 pm »
These Kabuto Ibuki's are on close out now at Revzilla for $359.Just ordered one. :)
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/kabuto-ibuki-helmet


Shoes has all metal clasps and latches in the modular action. Others have plastic. Is this a modular with metal hardware? I'll have a look later. My Neotec is loud loud loud....

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Fais, I have a good feeling you're going to like the mechanisms for the chin bar and the sun shield on the Ibuki. They're very solid!