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Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« on: September 11, 2018, 05:20:53 pm »
I’m considering the ‘Stich Roadcrafter pants and I’m curious to hear from anyone who owns them whether the fact that the zipper runs up the inside of the leg is a concern for water tightness? Seems like the worst possible place to put a zipper, right where your legs hug the fuel tank and water can collect. Am I concerned over nothing? Thanks!
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2018, 09:35:59 pm »
 I have the R3 suit but it still has zippers there.   It has yet to leak in the heavy rains I've ridden in.  I think the C14 has some outstanding bodywork as far as rain control goes.  I've never worn my Stich on a naked bike so cant say for sure in that situation

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2018, 09:54:43 pm »
I have the R3 suit but it still has zippers there.   It has yet to leak in the heavy rains I've ridden in.  I think the C14 has some outstanding bodywork as far as rain control goes.  I've never worn my Stich on a naked bike so cant say for sure in that situation
That’s great to hear. I was in a monsoon from WV to eastern PA last weekend, and not very long into the ride I felt my Tourmaster pants allowing water into the crotch area and felt a cool trickle, well, you know where. I think it was a combination of the water hitting my head/chest and running down the jacket and pooling in my lap and against the tank. The pants weren’t up to the challenge. I’m leaning toward the Roadcrafter over the Darien, but I like the placent of the zipper on the outside of the Darien better.
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2018, 10:46:54 pm »
My Aero' has been good for almost 20 years now.

Occasionally wash in the NikWax they sell, and give it a waterproofing spray every now and again. No problems. 
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2018, 11:33:19 pm »
I have the R3 suit but it still has zippers there.   It has yet to leak in the heavy rains I've ridden in.  I think the C14 has some outstanding bodywork as far as rain control goes.  I've never worn my Stich on a naked bike so cant say for sure in that situation
That’s great to hear. I was in a monsoon from WV to eastern PA last weekend, and not very long into the ride I felt my Tourmaster pants allowing water into the crotch area and felt a cool trickle, well, you know where. I think it was a combination of the water hitting my head/chest and running down the jacket and pooling in my lap and against the tank. The pants weren’t up to the challenge. I’m leaning toward the Roadcrafter over the Darien, but I like the placent of the zipper on the outside of the Darien better.

I think Stich quality has risen substantially over the years, and the materials of the zipper/crotch zone also improved. At least that is what Aero is saying; the older models (like mine, purchased in '04) did benefit from application of the seam sealer kit they sell, after a few years of abuse.
That kit had an applicator tip, and brushes, and sealer, which when "painted on/into" the stitching that holds the zippers, on both sides, truly does make them 100%.. the zippers never really leaked, it was the stitching of the fabric holding the zipper.
I did the "goober" thing, and thoroughly coated those seams, inside and out, back in '05, and have never had an issue since.
The zipper thing can be read here in the FAQ's
https://www.aerostich.com/roadcrafter-darien-faq

but, after looking closely at the photos of the "newer" models of all the products, it appears (visually) that the zippers used now, are already impregnated with some type of "rubber/plasticizer", making them much more reliable.

IMHO, my 2 piece Road Crafter has been my best purchase to date.
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2018, 12:10:45 am »
 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :)) :))

I just watched a vid, made by a good friend and ADV rider from Va., who pretty much 'lived' in his Stich for a year... didn't get to see him right before I moved back home, but I know from following his "adventure" he had a great time.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hm8t5WWYctI?rel=0&keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=315&width=560

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2018, 01:52:59 am »
I ended up getting a killer deal on a pair of Klim Badlands pants(50% off sales sample direct from Klim) so decided to go that route instead. My Tourmaster jacket did a good job of keeping me dry in the monsoon, so just buying the pants was a lot cheaper than an entire suit from Aerostich. And the Klim pants looked like a better designed product than the Darien pants, and were less money.
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2018, 11:42:57 am »
My Aero' has been good for almost 20 years now.

Occasionally wash in the NikWax they sell, and give it a waterproofing spray every now and again. No problems.
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2018, 02:49:16 pm »
I ended up getting a killer deal on a pair of Klim Badlands pants(50% off sales sample direct from Klim) so decided to go that route instead. My Tourmaster jacket did a good job of keeping me dry in the monsoon, so just buying the pants was a lot cheaper than an entire suit from Aerostich. And the Klim pants looked like a better designed product than the Darien pants, and were less money.

While I have not worn Darien's, they are much less robust than the Roadcrafter, but until you actually have a pair in hand, comparing by looks alone is kinda tough to make a call. Roadcrafter pants are always in stock,  and as Aerostich has such a highly modafiable fitting, they always have unused returns in stock also, at extremely reduced prices, you should always call and ask, ... You may be surprised by what is there that sits.

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2018, 07:39:48 pm »
While I have not worn Darien's, they are much less robust than the Roadcrafter, but until you actually have a pair in hand, comparing by looks alone is kinda tough to make a call. Roadcrafter pants are always in stock,  and as Aerostich has such a highly modafiable fitting, they always have unused returns in stock also, at extremely reduced prices, you should always call and ask, ... You may be surprised by what is there that sits.
Wasn’t really a matter of comparing by looks. I read through the specifications of the Darien pants and compared them to the Klim Badlands Pro pants and it didn’t seem like there was much of a comparison. The Klim pants come with Gore-Tex Pro three layer fabric versus the 500D Gore-Tex Cordura the Darien pants use. The Klim pants have four pockets(at least two of which are waterproof), versus Dariens’ three, of which zero are waterproof, or even have a zipper as far as I can tell. The Klim pants have leather panels inside the knees. The Dariens do not. The Klim pants have multiple zippered air vents. The Dariens have none. The Klim pants have multiple straps for adjusting fit. The Dariens have none. The Klim pants are lined, the Dariens are not. The Klim pants have additional layers in more abrasion areas than the Dariens.  The one area the Dariens did top the Klim, in my opinion, is in appearance. You can get the Dariens in just plain black, as opposed to Klim’s somewhat gaudy design.

None of this is intended to rip on Aerostich. They’ve got a very loyal following that doesn’t come without producing a product that people will support. But I don’t think it’s a controversial statement to say that Aerostich garments are certainly not being modernized with advances in garment technology. They are legacy designs that are being produced with legacy materials. They certainly appear to “get the job done”. But when placed side-by-side with other products that also “get the job done”, they are somewhat lackluster in their feature set. That and I got the Klim’s for under $300.  :beerchug:
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2018, 08:09:45 pm »
all cool... just figured why do the mix and match.. and Dariens AIN'T Roadcrafter pants.. no comparison... fully lined, multi waterproof pockets, and vents, and pass thru side access to pants pockets... and they can be zipped to your Roadcrafter jacket.. mmm

no big dealeo, just asking folks to peruse the stuff there,
https://www.aerostich.com/sale/rider-gear/roadcrafter-classic/roadcrafter-pants

you may have found what fitted ya, and would mate up with your jacket.
https://www.aerostich.com/sale/rider-gear/roadcrafter-classic/roadcrafter-pants?p=4


sometimes the deals, are really deals. Placing a call to them on that old device known as a phone, really helps a lot also...

Especially when a complete "normal sized" suit is running $1400... and well worth it (today.. I spent just under $1k for mine, custom made, highly modified, and almost a Tony Stark version.. when I bought it.)
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2019, 11:24:54 pm »
I have $1000 worth of Klim snowmobile gear in my closet right next to my Aerostich suit.   Long term is where the quality of the Aerostich starts to separate itself.  I'm not going to argue on the internet about Klims quality issues and steady decline over the years in the snowmobile world, which started even before Polaris bought them.  I'm also not going to argue about paying made in USA prices for gear thats almost exclusively made in China.  But those were all factors in my decision.  I now buy Fxr for my snowmobile stuff as it's proven every bit as good as Klim at 1/2 the price.  On the other hand my riding buds argue with me that their Joe Rocket gear is perfectly adequate so...  buy whatever works for you  :beerchug:

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 11:16:01 am »
I have $1000 worth of Klim snowmobile gear in my closet right next to my Aerostich suit.   Long term is where the quality of the Aerostich starts to separate itself.  I'm not going to argue on the internet about Klims quality issues and steady decline over the years in the snowmobile world, which started even before Polaris bought them.  I'm also not going to argue about paying made in USA prices for gear thats almost exclusively made in China.  But those were all factors in my decision.  I now buy Fxr for my snowmobile stuff as it's proven every bit as good as Klim at 1/2 the price.  On the other hand my riding buds argue with me that their Joe Rocket gear is perfectly adequate so...  buy whatever works for you  :beerchug:

Yup. The non-Aero friends make fun of my RoadCrafter "uniform", but every year at the cycle show one of them is buying another set of "bargain" riding jacket/pants.

A few years back I was stationed in Superior with the RailRoad for some training, and luckily it was at the same time as Aero's annual garage sale. What a treat! I also deposited my 'crafter for their basic R&R service, launder/water proofing. Good as new, a little more broken in, probably close to 400K miles on it. Andy Goldfine runs a quality business for us.     
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2019, 08:50:15 pm »
My Klim wasn’t made in China!
I may buy a roadcrafter someday on eBay !

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2019, 10:40:54 pm »
Show a picture of your tag then...  Vietnam?  Pakistan?

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2019, 08:18:01 pm »
My Klim wasn’t made in China!
I may buy a roadcrafter someday on eBay !

Make it a stop on your touring as we did. Check the racks, get sized for a custom and receive a nice discount! Take the Great Lakes tour as you go around!
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2019, 03:48:43 am »
My road crafter is the best investment in riding gear I have ever made since 2011. Chunk of change for initial investment but have not bought another set of outerwear in the past 7 years and yes it does make my a** look big. Comfortable. water proof, easy on off, Don't have to stop to put on rain gear. Don't have to stop to take off rain gear. Andy rocks. My junk is sun bleached but from below freezing to over 110 it is the go to.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2019, 05:03:00 am »
Show a picture of your tag then...  Vietnam?  Pakistan?

Vietnam!

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2019, 01:23:38 am »
Rode home two hours in the remnant of a hurricane, and no leaks.

I love my Aerostich!

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 01:44:11 am »
And it's a great conversation starter when people ask me why I am wearing my onesie.  :)) :)) :))
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2019, 01:56:55 am »
My Klim wasn’t made in China!
I may buy a roadcrafter someday on eBay !

Make it a stop on your touring as we did. Check the racks, get sized for a custom and receive a nice discount! Take the Great Lakes tour as you go around!
I went to a pop up event store in Reno a few years ago and tried on  a few items. When I was ready to ride I bough5 a Olympia o e piece suit and didn’t care for it so I figured I would buy a two piece suit! So far so good .

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 03:36:25 am »
OP concern/question was the location of Aerostich zippers on Road Crafter pants and if the positioning seems to leak. For me:

I have ridden Klim as a daily commuter for 2 years and on a Four Corners ride, I have ridden an Aerostich R3 one piece suit for 3 years and when I ride with my wife ride have ridden the Darien two piece variety for 2 years.....also worth noting I have ridden the same Darien two piece suit for 2 years as a daily commuter.

I am a daily rider in the PNW if there is no snow or ice on the road I enjoy touring, vacationing, commuting and running errands of the two wheel variety.

With Klim (Latitude) I have had a few leaks (three) and each time they have promptly replaced the garment stating their tests showed the garment failed their tests and they will replace it.

With Aerostich I have not had a failure with either the Darien or the Roadcrafter R3 Suit.

The above is not definitive data, rather someones (mine) experience. I usually ride about 20K per year 50/50 city vs highway.  I have gravitated towards the Aerostich garments because I prefer fewer garments, and the majority of my riding is commuting, thus Aerostich has their garments set for: easy on easy off, plenty of pockets, very waterproof, easy on over other cloths, and easily usable if you choose not to wear "other cloths" under them.

My Klim gear is AWESOME, however it is not as universally useful and although I purchased it at a precious penny, it sits in my closet unused.

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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2019, 03:59:18 am »
For me I like KLIM stuff. I have a badlands jacket, To me it is better for dual sport stuff and the stich for purely on road. Never had a problem with the KLIM gear just seem more geared to DS and off road. The stich is pure street tho I have seen folks run them DS.
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Re: Question for Aerostich Roadcrafter owners
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2019, 11:16:54 am »
OP concern/question was the location of Aerostich zippers on Road Crafter pants and if the positioning seems to leak. For me:

I have ridden Klim as a daily commuter for 2 years and on a Four Corners ride, I have ridden an Aerostich R3 one piece suit for 3 years and when I ride with my wife ride have ridden the Darien two piece variety for 2 years.....also worth noting I have ridden the same Darien two piece suit for 2 years as a daily commuter.

I am a daily rider in the PNW if there is no snow or ice on the road I enjoy touring, vacationing, commuting and running errands of the two wheel variety.

With Klim (Latitude) I have had a few leaks (three) and each time they have promptly replaced the garment stating their tests showed the garment failed their tests and they will replace it.

With Aerostich I have not had a failure with either the Darien or the Roadcrafter R3 Suit.

The above is not definitive data, rather someones (mine) experience. I usually ride about 20K per year 50/50 city vs highway.  I have gravitated towards the Aerostich garments because I prefer fewer garments, and the majority of my riding is commuting, thus Aerostich has their garments set for: easy on easy off, plenty of pockets, very waterproof, easy on over other cloths, and easily usable if you choose not to wear "other cloths" under them.

My Klim gear is AWESOME, however it is not as universally useful and although I purchased it at a precious penny, it sits in my closet unused.
Thanks for that feedback! It was exactly the kind of information I was looking for. The leg zippers on the Roadcrafter just seem like they were in an odd place and I was concerned about leakage because when my Tourmaster pants failed, and the rain literally filled my boots while riding in a six hour monsoon, that was where they failed, at the crotch where my legs wrapped the tank in the water laid.  I ended up buying the Klim pants because I got them at a killer price, and they seem like a more “advanced“ design, but after they arrived I’ve noticed they are a much more form fitting design. I have to see after some riding how I feel about that. Thanks again!
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