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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2018, 03:50:05 am »
Can't go wrong with LD Comfort tights or riding shorts.  May be expensive but well worth it and a US company.

I ordered a pair of the LD Comfort tights as well as a pair of the CycleGear heatouts to check them out against the Texas heat this summer.  No doubt they will both work, but wanted to see how each would wear against the Motoport kevlar mesh. :beerchug:

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2018, 12:25:11 am »
I haven't had a chance to ride since I bought mine.

Post up when you get 'em tested.  I'll do likewise.

Kinda curious.

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2018, 01:18:20 am »
Cycle gear heat-outs, 2 sets, also bought in the fall on sale for $10. ;D
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2018, 03:26:49 pm »
I was going to say something dumb like, wear underwear underneath...  But then a more practical answer came to mind.  Have you thought of the REI convertible pants?  They are lightweight and dry quickly if they get wet.  The bottom half of the leg unzips if you want to have shorts on.  And the way they designed the lower half, you don't have to take off your boots to remove them.

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2018, 03:28:02 pm »
Can't go wrong with LD Comfort tights or riding shorts.  May be expensive but well worth it and a US company.

I ordered a pair of the LD Comfort tights as well as a pair of the CycleGear heatouts to check them out against the Texas heat this summer.  No doubt they will both work, but wanted to see how each would wear against the Motoport kevlar mesh. :beerchug:

I guess I am a bit confused as to what people are feeling. I have stretch on the rear and kevlar mesh in the front. I don't feel any of the mesh with the material on the inside and the armour in place , I wear basketball length shorts and knee high UnderArmour All Sport socks with Forma Adventure boots. Where is it you are feeling anything? The fabric they use between the Armour and my skin is soft.

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2018, 09:15:38 pm »
I was going to say something dumb like, wear underwear underneath...  But then a more practical answer came to mind.  Have you thought of the REI convertible pants?  They are lightweight and dry quickly if they get wet.  The bottom half of the leg unzips if you want to have shorts on.  And the way they designed the lower half, you don't have to take off your boots to remove them.

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I have three pair of what I  call "hiking pants" (like the REI convertible pants) that I  wear for this purpose. Sierra Trading Post  is a good online price alternative  to REI. I wear HeatOuts under those. I'm currently looking for some thin, over the calf wicking socks. I have thicker wicking boot socks from BassPro (Red Head brand) for the summer.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2018, 12:33:11 pm »
To answer Freebird's question:  I simply don't like the feeling of the inner liner on my motorports sticking to me in hot weather, particularly when i can feel the sweat dripping down my legs.  There are certain positions I move my legs into, that I can feel that kevlar poking through the mesh liner, and it's not pleasant.

To answer the question about the Convertible pants: too thick, for me, anyway.  But I see the practicality of the prospect.  just not for me.  I don't like layering, especially in summer.
To be very honest, I hate the heat, and I won't ride above 90deg if I can help it.

Why you guys keep scheduling the nationals in the DEAD of summer, is a complete Mystery to me, but I'm just one guy, who is admittedly not a fan of the hotter temps.
I prefer to ride in the winter, or at least when it's colder.  My policy is that i can ALWAYS add more clothes underneath, but i can only take OFF so many.  :truce:

WITH THAT ALL SAID:  CycleGar HeatOuts

Thumbs UP!  Cheap, comfortable, and definitely shed more heat than they keep in.
To be fair - i only got as high as 90 degf on my ride last weekend, but I never got any hotter than I would have been without the pants on.  They seem to have a nice ability to provide an auxillary evaporative effect on the lower body, and for me -- without the skin to skin contact with the liner of my Motoport Kevlar pants.

I even hit temps as low as 60 at elevation (5500 feet) with rain, and these liners didn't make me colder, when they got wet.

Good Recommend Ron!  :great:

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2018, 01:01:45 pm »
I used to have mesh gear.Now I know better and will never ever wear mesh again.
 LD Confort  shorts under my Aerostich pants.  Nothing touching my skin as the knee pads keep the material off my legs. Slight venting from the bottom gives me a nice breeze all the way up and out the slightly unzippered sides. Even the privates get a nice cool breeze. Plus I am always wearing rain gear all the time- and summer gear  and winter gear  and fall gear--- I think you get it.  One good shell is all you need for all seasons and all weather.
Mesh is just way too hot and dehydrates you quickly. Might as well sit in front of a bast furnace if you like  hot air on your skin. Proper venting is the key. Call LD Comfort and they will explain it very  well. Much better than reading my post.  I called them and the advice is free.  They saved my @ss  when I rode cross country in 120 degree heat. 
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2018, 01:47:07 pm »
:iagree: with the comments about the Cycle Gear Heat Outs.  I bought two pair (to rotate) at about $20 each and wore them under my Motoport Ultra II Air Mesh pants.  Even in the Texas heat, I was fine during my early morning rides.  My legs didn't get clammy like when wearing sweat soaked cotton and there were no snags or wear spots caused by the pants.  I wore them in temps from the 70's to the upper 90's.  These were a real bargain compared to the equally impressive LD Comfort tights (about $65), which I wore on the commute to the Rally (~275 miles). 

I figure that the mesh really helped the evaporation process and kept me dry considering the humidity this time was not bad.  Both brands were a winner....but at the low Cycle Gear Heat Outs price point..I say they come out on top.

I'm riding the Alps II Rolling Rally in July and will be updating this if things change.  Not sure if I'll be wearing the Motoport Mesh or the Motoport Stretch, though.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2018, 11:32:03 pm »
To answer Freebird's question:  I simply don't like the feeling of the inner liner on my motorports sticking to me in hot weather, particularly when i can feel the sweat dripping down my legs.  There are certain positions I move my legs into, that I can feel that kevlar poking through the mesh liner, and it's not pleasant.

To answer the question about the Convertible pants: too thick, for me, anyway.  But I see the practicality of the prospect.  just not for me.  I don't like layering, especially in summer.
To be very honest, I hate the heat, and I won't ride above 90deg if I can help it.

Why you guys keep scheduling the nationals in the DEAD of summer, is a complete Mystery to me, but I'm just one guy, who is admittedly not a fan of the hotter temps.
I prefer to ride in the winter, or at least when it's colder.  My policy is that i can ALWAYS add more clothes underneath, but i can only take OFF so many.  :truce:

WITH THAT ALL SAID:  CycleGar HeatOuts

Thumbs UP!  Cheap, comfortable, and definitely shed more heat than they keep in.
To be fair - i only got as high as 90 degf on my ride last weekend, but I never got any hotter than I would have been without the pants on.  They seem to have a nice ability to provide an auxillary evaporative effect on the lower body, and for me -- without the skin to skin contact with the liner of my Motoport Kevlar pants.

I even hit temps as low as 60 at elevation (5500 feet) with rain, and these liners didn't make me colder, when they got wet.

Good Recommend Ron!  :great:

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2018, 03:44:03 pm »
Higher evaporation rate from the Mesh Gear, keeps me from having to stop and pee all the time.   :rotflmao:

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2018, 04:02:31 pm »
Higher evaporation rate from the Mesh Gear, keeps me from having to stop and pee all the time.   :rotflmao:

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I noticed the same effect. :??:
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2018, 12:26:53 am »
One can get convertible pants made of nylon (very light and breathable).

If you're not stopping to pee you are becoming dangerously dehydrated.

Daytona Mike's advice is spot on.  He had the experience to back up his opinion. I watched him ride from SC to ID and back for the NW region's national in AUG.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2018, 01:45:16 am »
One can get convertible pants made of nylon (very light and breathable).

If you're not stopping to pee you are becoming dangerously dehydrated.

Daytona Mike's advice is spot on.  He had the experience to back up his opinion. I watched him ride from SC to ID and back for the NW region's national in AUG.

Sierra Trading Post is  a good place to buy those convertible pants. Much better price than REI.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2018, 03:35:58 am »
....

If you're not stopping to pee you are becoming dangerously dehydrated.

Daytona Mike's advice is spot on.  He had the experience to back up his opinion. I watched him ride from SC to ID and back for the NW region's national in AUG.

Jim,

Dangerously dehydrated....in my case, nope.  My longest day was only ~275 miles as I said in my post, with the other days shorter.  Each day I used my camel back with a mixture of gatorade and ice.  The combination of the Motoport Mesh, wicking base gear and camelback, worked well for me. 

I chose to leave my Aerostitch at home.  IMHO, it's not a good choice for Texas summers especially for the shorter rides (and that is based on my 'experience in Texas'). 
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2018, 11:28:14 am »
I was going to say something dumb like, wear underwear underneath...  But then a more practical answer came to mind.  Have you thought of the REI convertible pants?  They are lightweight and dry quickly if they get wet.  The bottom half of the leg unzips if you want to have shorts on.  And the way they designed the lower half, you don't have to take off your boots to remove them.

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I have three pair of what I  call "hiking pants" (like the REI convertible pants) that I  wear for this purpose. Sierra Trading Post  is a good online price alternative  to REI. I wear HeatOuts under those. I'm currently looking for some thin, over the calf wicking socks. I have thicker wicking boot socks from BassPro (Red Head brand) for the summer.

Before heading to the National in Texas I purchased two pairs of zip off hiking pants for Blaise to wear under his mesh riding pants. He really liked them. They're lightweight and he was able to unzip the bottom half and wear shorts while walking around San Antonio. $25 at Academy sports.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2018, 11:35:46 am »
I recently switched from wearing bicycle shorts to Moto-Skiveez Adventure Skiveez- not cheap but they provide good cushioning for the gluts and sensitive bits.
I have the moto skeevez and I'm not very fond of them. I bought the adventure ones too, but they bunch up, and hurt just as much (or worse) than regular undies.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2018, 11:58:59 am »
I wore the convertible pants under my Darien Light pants and a wicking long-sleeved t-shirt under the Darien Light coat. I was (reasonably) comfortable in the Texas heat as long as I was moving.

When I was talking about being dangerously dehydrated I was referring to an all day (8+ hour) ride. On shorter rides the hazard is less.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2018, 12:42:03 pm »
Dont take this personal its just my opinion that means nothing. You already know I dont think mesh practical or convenient  like when it rains but  all the Motor port jackets and pants  I have seen on people  with the puckering and uneven stitching reminds of something someones mother hand sewed   from old potato sacks. LOL.  Sorry. Sometimes I just cant help myself.
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2018, 11:03:39 am »
I have to admit....for what I paid, the fit of my Motorport is truly obscene.

Given all the horror stories of people trying to get them to correct the first iteration of fitment based on provided measurements, and how persnickety the owner is -- I have avoided it.
I feel like the ONLY way to get it right is to go there in person.

I gave them a pair of my best fitting pants at the time, and what I got back wasn't even CLOSE.
I don't even know HOW that's possible??

The zippers in the sleeves are already starting to "splay" and not stay locked, even after only two seasons of use.

Yeah, it's bombproof, but the fitment process needs some serious work.

But contrarily, I respectfully don't agree with Mike:  I have ridden in the HOT with non-perf gear, and I will NOT do it again, unless I get caught out by accident in those conditions.

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2018, 11:55:32 am »
(slight hijack - sorry  :( ) Nate, you going to Beat the Heat?
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2018, 01:23:11 pm »

I feel like the ONLY way to get it right is to go there in person.


Well worth the trip to San Diego in February. Mine was great from the first time I put it on. I wear it year round in the Midwest. From a low of 21 degrees to the present heat wave. Paired with my Warm N Safe in the winter and Dri Wick stuff and an Evap Cooling vest ni the summer. I am just fine. Bought the newest set of gloves as well. Primo. Feel naked without them.

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2018, 08:56:28 pm »
PMd you Ron.

To be fair -- I should have been more diligent on fixing my fitment issues with my motoport gear sooner than I did.  But I wanted to wear it enough to be able to provide good feedback to them, in order to limit my need to ship stuff back and forth.
I think I'll "rest" this stuff this winter, and send it back for some adjustments and modifications.

The funny thing is, that I've gained weight since buying the Motoports, and the pants are STILL too big in the waist.   :-[
The pants I sent them to use as a template, haven't fit me in over a year.

Now you tell me, if that isn't a telling measurement of how liberal Motoport is with their idea of fitment.  ::)

I don't hate it, in fact - I LIKE this gear. Bombproof, and so much protection.
I just wish they would have gotten my original measurements closer to what I requested originally.

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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2018, 10:34:36 pm »
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Re: What to wear under Motoport Mesh Pants??
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2018, 04:17:47 am »
The Ultra II Air Mesh Pants are designed to worn over a pair of pants per their webpage.  It also so .. or a pair of thin lycra shorts or something to that effect.  Gives them a lot of leeway.

I have the Air Mesh pants and a pair of the stretch kevlar ones.  They fit fairly well.  So I have no complaints.  I guess I got lucky.
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