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Offline Godpossessed

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Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« on: January 21, 2018, 10:44:54 pm »
I received my ECU yesterday, in its newly re-flashed form, and it couldn't have been better timing. The weather here in Birmingham was 67 and sunny today after a long string of unseasonable cold days.

My normal riding buddy has a large displacement V-Twin cruiser and usually I let him set the pace. Before the flash when he would roll on the throttle, in the 30-50mph range, I would drop behind until my revs came up. Today I never dropped behind in a low speed roll on. The traction control light flickered often in low gears between 4 and 7k RPMs, as the front wheel got light at full throttle.

I swear this thing feels like it is shifting better especially during easy clutchless upshifts. (I wonder if the flash removes the torque load from the tranny faster during throttle closing.) Parking lot maneuvering seemed easier to manage than before and popping during engine braking is all but eliminated.

I still need to adjust my throttle cables and I never got enough open road to attack the twisties but I am certain that I will still be discovering improvements when Spring finally gets here.

Two definite improvements:
1 - low and mid-range power
2 - on and off throttle transitions

Money WELL SPENT!! Thanks Steve - the MR flash is a winner!

Mark

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2018, 11:29:51 pm »
Wow, that sounds great! Do you have any other performance mods besides the re flash, or is it an other wise stock bike?

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 11:53:21 pm »
It does have a Vance and Hines CS One slip on.

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 01:34:13 am »
Also got this flash late last year when it was still in beta. I’ll agree with those comments. Best part for me is the throttle control when hustling through the tight stuff. Engine brake is nice as well.

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 11:10:04 am »

I swear this thing feels like it is shifting better especially during easy clutchless upshifts.

Mark, there was a pile of work to get the up and downshifts as nice as they are while also getting the other attributes of deceleration and throttle control in Mountain Runner. During building this flash, getting the shifting as nice as it is was the single biggest challenge (my beta testers will attest to that). I think Mountain Runner has the best clutched and clutchless  up and downshifts I've ever felt on a c-14. Glad you noticed that, and thanks! Steve
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 12:35:13 pm »
I really want this flash but I am going to wait till I get these crappy Bridgestone's off and figure out what I am doing with exhaust.
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 07:38:52 pm »
I really want this flash but I am going to wait till I get these crappy Bridgestone's off and figure out what I am doing with exhaust.

I did not realize how crappy the stock Bridgestones were until I replaced them with Angel GT's and found what this bike was capable of with good tires!
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 12:58:12 pm »
Mine should be on the way back from Steve. Two rounds of flashing... First was the decel flash when I got the bike in 2016. and now this one.

It's going to be a bit different this spring. Installed the Penske and AK-20s while the ECU was on vacation.

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 03:44:11 pm »
This isn't a review of the flash, as I only got the ECU back in the mail this morning and haven't had a chance to test it, but a comment on SISF.  I got the Evolution flash in 2017, and liked it, but as someone who spends most of the time on rides hustling through tight turns the Mountain Runner looked like a better fit.  I emailed Steve for instructions to ship, and had a unique question about payment because I had a pile of gift cards from Christmas I was hoping to use somehow to cover the cost.  I don't want to say exactly what Steve did for me, because I don't want to put him on the spot, but he very graciously made me an offer that benefitted me, but cost him personally, that he didn't have to make.  I sent the ECU off and got it back in a week. I'm sure I'll be pleased with the MR flash, but I'm very grateful for Steve going out of his way in customer service.  What he did he didn't have to do, and it wouldn't have made me any LESS happy as a customer if he didn't, but he did it anyway without any prompting from me.  He made the offer cold on his own initiative.  When a business owner will do that it says a lot about them.  Thank you Steve!  I'll report back about the flash then too.
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2018, 04:22:20 pm »
Mine should be on the way back from Steve. Two rounds of flashing... First was the decel flash when I got the bike in 2016. and now this one.

It's going to be a bit different this spring. Installed the Penske and AK-20s while the ECU was on vacation.

Looking forward to your comparison.
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2018, 02:05:38 am »
Those stock B-Stones are a crime against Biking Humanity.  :-[

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2018, 01:13:00 pm »
Those stock B-Stones are a crime against Biking Humanity.  :-[
+1000!!!
The moment i swapped them for the Pilot 3s, I was suddenly in love with my bike all over again!
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2018, 02:01:48 pm »
Those stock B-Stones are a crime against Biking Humanity.  :-[
+1000!!!
The moment i swapped them for the Pilot 3s, I was suddenly in love with my bike all over again!
Those stock B-Stones are a crime against Biking Humanity.  :-[

Exactly why I feel it is important to change them before adding to the power of the bike. As far as doing exhaust fist that is in case what I do there changes Steve's tuning suggestions.
I sure wish tuning for the bike was more like tuning for my Duramax, for my Duramax I own the ECM interface (via, EFI Live V-2) and my tuning comes buy way of emails.
BTW if anyone has questions about tuning their diesel truck feel free to PM me I can make may good recommendations.
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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2018, 02:24:39 am »
I took my first test ride with the mountain runner flash today. It was 45 degrees with a pretty good wind blowing so I was only able to ride for 40 miles or so. That was enough to realize this flash is everything Steve said it was going to be. Like everything everyone else has said its the instant power but more important to me is the spot on throttle control. I've had every flash done except the decel and the mountain runner is definitely the best and working with Steve is always a pleasure. He's a straight up guy to do business with. Many thanks Steve.

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Re: Shoodaben Mt. Runner initial impressions
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2018, 02:42:42 am »
I really want this flash but I am going to wait till I get these crappy Bridgestone's off and figure out what I am doing with exhaust.

I did not realize how crappy the stock Bridgestones were until I replaced them with Angel GT's and found what this bike was capable of with good tires!


I have been lucky enough to have the Mountain Runner flash installed on my GTR1400 here in Australia.My bike is stock standard in terms of exhaust,air filter.What a difference,buckets of torque down low and mid-range, improved fuel economy,smoother gear changes,smooth transition from throttle on throttle off,and excellent deceleration braking.I will be leaving the bike stock standard.
 Currently traveled over 350kms testing the results of this flash and totally blown away with the bikes performance now,outstanding.
And Steve is one of natures gentlemen,so good to be associated with his work

+1 regarding how good Pirelli Angel GT "A" SPEC's are.Mine have currently traveled 13500kms, still have 3mm left front and rear,outstanding handling in both wet and dry,excellent turn in.
Will replace with the same.
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