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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2017, 02:34:24 pm »
Hey JTX - or anyone else - just thought of this.  Doesn't your year have traction control?  Does it take longer than that to kick in?  (Mine is an 08 abs with no TC)


Yes but it wouldnt be applicable to this kind of traction loss. I wish!!


The KTRAC is for the rear wheel slipping upon acceleration. 


ETA: Attaching the pictures for future searches when my image links are gone.

Are those pics to show the chicken strips, or almost large enough to be called chicken fillets?  :D

All kidding aside. Ive never seen that kind of harsh wear on a michelin. Those pics are a definite deciding factor for me, no Angel GT. If I change, Ill follow Cliffs recommendation and try Avon's. 31 sets of tires is a thorough test of a product.




Those 1/8th inch stripes are very intentional. :great:


Well, let me remind you of a couple of things on these pictures.  The bike was loaded down pretty well, theres was some two-up riding and I pushed them pretty hard in the corners.  Thats why I slid.  Considering the weight of the bike for 6000 miles, they are pretty well worn.  Also, I rode through a ton ( 20 miles ) of fresh road asphalt and you are seeing some of that on the sides of the tires.  It took me several miles to ride far enough to get that crap off my tires before I could get back up to highway speed.


I've been riding a long time and I couldnt be more happy with the tires and their condition at this point.  Though I was surprised the FRONT is down to the wear bars before the rear. But, I did a LOT of riding on the edges.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2017, 03:20:19 pm »
Hey JTX - or anyone else - just thought of this.  Doesn't your year have traction control?  Does it take longer than that to kick in?  (Mine is an 08 abs with no TC)


Yes but it wouldnt be applicable to this kind of traction loss. I wish!!


The KTRAC is for the rear wheel slipping upon acceleration. 


ETA: Attaching the pictures for future searches when my image links are gone.

Are those pics to show the chicken strips, or almost large enough to be called chicken fillets?  :D

All kidding aside. Ive never seen that kind of harsh wear on a michelin. Those pics are a definite deciding factor for me, no Angel GT. If I change, Ill follow Cliffs recommendation and try Avon's. 31 sets of tires is a thorough test of a product.




Those 1/8th inch stripes are very intentional. :great:


  Also, I rode through a ton ( 20 miles ) of fresh road asphalt and you are seeing some of that on the sides of the tires.



Yep, thats why they're called CHICKEN strips!

Im seeing in your pics missing rubber chunking out of the tires, not asphalt buildup.
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2017, 03:23:54 pm »
Hey JTX - or anyone else - just thought of this.  Doesn't your year have traction control?  Does it take longer than that to kick in?  (Mine is an 08 abs with no TC)


Yes but it wouldnt be applicable to this kind of traction loss. I wish!!


The KTRAC is for the rear wheel slipping upon acceleration. 


ETA: Attaching the pictures for future searches when my image links are gone.

Are those pics to show the chicken strips, or almost large enough to be called chicken fillets?  :D

All kidding aside. Ive never seen that kind of harsh wear on a michelin. Those pics are a definite deciding factor for me, no Angel GT. If I change, Ill follow Cliffs recommendation and try Avon's. 31 sets of tires is a thorough test of a product.




Those 1/8th inch stripes are very intentional. :great:


  Also, I rode through a ton ( 20 miles ) of fresh road asphalt and you are seeing some of that on the sides of the tires.



Yep, thats why they're called CHICKEN strips!

Im seeing in your pics missing rubber chunking out of the tires, not asphalt buildup.




I'm not seeing what you see apparently.  What picture, and what section of the tire?

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2017, 09:10:34 pm »
I just installed a set of Angels today. Even took it for a short ride.  It feels sooooo much better than the stock 021's. I really think a class action suit against Kawasaki for putting those horrible tires on a bike.

Stock tires had 1654 miles since I bought the bike new in Aug. They will get not 1 mile more.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2017, 09:12:23 pm »
I just installed a set of Angels today. Even took it for a short ride.  It feels sooooo much better than the stock 021's. I really think a class action suit against Kawasaki for putting those horrible tires on a bike.




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What struck me immediately, was, how well it turned vs the 021s I had. I turned and almost turned too far!

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2017, 09:42:31 pm »
That was my impression too.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2017, 03:18:26 am »
I tried Michelin once. This is the weird wear after about half the tread life. They felt squirrelly so I took them off and went back to Angels. Never stray again.




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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2017, 01:26:04 pm »
I tried Michelin once. This is the weird wear after about half the tread life. They felt squirrelly so I took them off and went back to Angels. Never stray again.








It looks like they couldnt handle the torque very well.....  There was some of this on the Angels, but it was mild compared to that.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2017, 01:52:22 pm »
Have any of you tried the Dunlop Sportmax Roadsmart 2? 8/32 rear tread depth.
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2017, 02:58:45 am »
I tried Michelin once. This is the weird wear after about half the tread life. They felt squirrelly so I took them off and went back to Angels. Never stray again.

That does look weird.  On my 3rd set of PR4's on this bike and 2 on another.  Never saw that before.  I'd quit after that too!  Only thing I have seen is some of the sipes on the front looking a little raised when worn.  SO far, my front to back ratio has been nearly 2:1.  Not quite, but close. 

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2017, 11:32:46 pm »
I had that same weird wear on the PR4's I bought, and road fully loaded for 5K miles.

I've had similar odd scallpoing with the Angel SpecA's, but only when I ride two up for long distances.
I mostly attribute this to bad suspension settings, as I am not good with setup.

The Pirellis handle it better than the michelins for sure, and I still like the way the Pirellis feel and handle overall.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2017, 03:48:54 am »
Never had that with the Angels. Don't ride two up.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2017, 05:47:01 pm »
Dang it, I was all ready to buy PR4s and ya tawked me into Angel GTs.  Less than $300, I was happy about that as well!

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2017, 06:10:07 pm »
Their prices make the perelli a no brainer IMO.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2017, 04:26:04 pm »
I had the PR4s on my bike for about 4000 miles and hated them. When I had my little drop and it was in the shop I had them toss the PR4s and put Angels back on it. I'll never trust my a** to anything else again.
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2017, 05:06:48 pm »
Hi,
       After studying suspension,watching vids and talking to people about the C14.... :o

I can not help but wonder, if a lot of tire wear problems, are more related to the OEM suspension. :-X

Than to different, makes/brands/models, of tires???? :(

Just sayin??? ;D
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2017, 05:08:34 pm »
Hi,
       After studying suspension,watching vids and talking to people about the C14.... :o

I can not help but wonder, if a lot of tire wear problems, are more related to the OEM suspension. :-X

Than to different, makes/brands/models, of tires???? :(

Just sayin??? ;D






It's a fair question.  Though I'm not sure you could ever really prove it either way.




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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #42 on: February 12, 2017, 09:49:21 pm »
Actually,
It would be pretty easy for someone to prove.
All they have to do is ride for several sets of tires on stock suspension in their normal stomping grounds. Then they buy new tires and better suspension and repeat same as before. 4 sets of tires each way should give conclusive evidence on tire wear.
Shouldn't take more than a couple years!
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2017, 11:09:07 pm »
Actually,
It would be pretty easy for someone to prove.
All they have to do is ride for several sets of tires on stock suspension in their normal stomping grounds. Then they buy new tires and better suspension and repeat same as before. 4 sets of tires each way should give conclusive evidence on tire wear.
Shouldn't take more than a couple years!
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HA!  Yeah I suppose if you went the same way every time!


Pass.  I'll simply say that I have proof these tires saved me in the video !  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2017, 10:13:26 pm »
I had the PR4s on my bike for about 4000 miles and hated them. When I had my little drop and it was in the shop I had them toss the PR4s and put Angels back on it. I'll never trust my a** to anything else again.

Me too, hated the PR4's. I like the Angel GT's but I go through them too fast, The Avon 3DXM's feel just like the GT's but wear twice as long.
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2017, 10:24:16 pm »
Hi,
       After studying suspension,watching vids and talking to people about the C14.... :o

I can not help but wonder, if a lot of tire wear problems, are more related to the OEM suspension. :-X

Than to different, makes/brands/models, of tires???? :(

Just sayin??? ;D

I think if you tracked the C14 yes suspension would play a part, but street riding I doubt has an effect. Now rider habits like grabbing a fist full all the time, grabbing the brakes all the time and generally having rough inputs would have an effect on tire wear. I ride the pace, so quick, but not abrupt on the throttle or brakes. I do like to drive into corners so I do wear the front tire more than most.
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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2017, 10:30:59 pm »
Hi,
       After studying suspension,watching vids and talking to people about the C14.... :o

I can not help but wonder, if a lot of tire wear problems, are more related to the OEM suspension. :-X

Than to different, makes/brands/models, of tires???? :(

Just sayin??? ;D

I think if you tracked the C14 yes suspension would play a part, but street riding I doubt has an effect. Now rider habits like grabbing a fist full all the time, grabbing the brakes all the time and generally having rough inputs would have an effect on tire wear. I ride the pace, so quick, but not abrupt on the throttle or brakes. I do like to drive into corners so I do wear the front tire more than most.




Considering what I did on this trip to these tires, they were spectacular and I'm a lifer.


I even went off road in the dirt for 12 miles up a mountainside and they never missed a beat.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2017, 11:54:48 pm »
Would you recommend the Front and Rear "A " Spec  Angel GT's or are the regular GT's just fine? Thinking about trying the Angel GT's but I just love my Michelin's PR 4 GT's...Need to replace the front after more than 9K miles and I still have plenty of tread left on rear tire after 4500 miles. Have read enough comments to at least try the Angels. Price is lower than the PR 4's also.

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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2017, 11:56:04 pm »
Would you recommend the Front and Rear "A " Spec  Angel GT's or are the regular GT's just fine? Thinking about trying the Angel GT's but I just love my Michelin's PR 4 GT's...Need to replace the front after more than 9K miles and I still have plenty of tread left on rear tire after 4500 miles. Have read enough comments to at least try the Angels. Price is lower than the PR 4's also.


A Spec only applies to the rear.  The front is the same tire anywhere.




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Re: 6000 mi Perrelli Angel GT report
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2017, 12:07:24 am »
Would you recommend the Front and Rear "A " Spec  Angel GT's or are the regular GT's just fine? Thinking about trying the Angel GT's but I just love my Michelin's PR 4 GT's...Need to replace the front after more than 9K miles and I still have plenty of tread left on rear tire after 4500 miles. Have read enough comments to at least try the Angels. Price is lower than the PR 4's also.


A Spec only applies to the rear.  The front is the same tire anywhere.
Actually there is an "A" spec available for the front also. Slightly increased load range is the difference. Stiffer carcass.
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