Author Topic: Disabling and/or removing TPMS function altogether  (Read 2104 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline TimR

  • Global Moderator
  • Iron Butt
  • **
  • Posts: 3757
  • AREA: Northwest Area
  • COG#: 9032
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Disabling and/or removing TPMS function altogether
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2019, 03:45:59 am »
Yeah, the Tire Pressure system has saved me a couple of times too. First time I was able to get air and make it home. Once home I plugged the leak. Then I was in MT running down the road at speeds that won't get you stopped in MT but still over the speed limit a bit. My warning light comes on and the dash indicates a low rear tire. Only had a couple of miles to go to a Harley dealer who pointed me to a metric dealer after putting air in the tire. 


The front sensor died several years ago but the rear was still kicking after 10 years. I have the early sensors and I sent them to Fred Harmon because my soldering ability has gone way. Fred has a quick turn around. He also sent the readout sheets from his machine that tells him if the sensors are reading.


First ride with the new batteries...I aired both tires to 42 psi. After rolling a short distance under power the sensors came alive and both indicated 42 psi. Before the readings would have been close but not matching and a couple psi higher than what was put in.  This time as the tires warmed up the indicated air pressures remained paired.


I also have a non tsps motorcycle. I put air in the tires when I think about it and always have to put some air in.


Personally I like monitoring Tire pressure over gas mileage or battery voltage. 
Blue 1975 Z1B 900, Red 09 C14     I might not be perfect but at least I don't ride a Suzuki

Offline Neil

  • Tricycle
  • Posts: 22
  • ??????
  • AREA: Northeast Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Disabling and/or removing TPMS function altogether
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2019, 12:31:24 am »
how can I tell the rear sensor from the front sensor
Neil Nep

Offline MAN OF BLUES

  • I Need a Life
  • ******
  • Posts: 9331
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 5977
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Disabling and/or removing TPMS function altogether
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2019, 12:34:55 am »
how can I tell the rear sensor from the front sensor


 :)) :)) :))

by the dashboard readings...
and the big tire goes on the rear of the bike....


the sensors are the same, just don't remove them, and toss them on a bench, without marking which one came from which tire... doh...

30 YEARS OF KAW.....Rich R. (the other one..)  COG 5977  JUSTAMEMBAHNOW
and if you are gonna call me names... it's MR. Analdweeb if you please...

Offline Neil

  • Tricycle
  • Posts: 22
  • ??????
  • AREA: Northeast Area
  • COG#: Forum
  • Membership Level: Forum Subscriber
Re: Disabling and/or removing TPMS function altogether
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2019, 12:41:12 am »
They were removed without noting front or back, not by me !!
Neil Nep

Offline MAN OF BLUES

  • I Need a Life
  • ******
  • Posts: 9331
  • AREA: North Central Area
  • COG#: 5977
  • Membership Level: Active
Re: Disabling and/or removing TPMS function altogether
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2019, 12:50:21 am »
They were removed without noting front or back, not by me !!


oh, ok...

thought it was a silly question, thus my silly answer... sorry...


so...
 get a pice of stout string, about 2 foot long.. tie it around one sensor, then wrap some masking tape around it to make sure its well attached.
Then, turn on the bike, start the engine, stand within 4 feet of the bike, and holding the string firmly, spin the string and sensor while looking at the dash display (set to tire pressure mode)... when one pops up on the display, with zero p.s.i. , mark the one you spun as F or R, the one that isn't "spun" will show up with "---" on the display.

hope that helps.

I actually turn my mountain bike upside down, and tape the sensor inside the spokes of the rear wheel against the rim, and crank the pedals up to speed, and get the reading on a sensor being tested, within a couple feet of the bicycle/motorcycle combo..
If these are "new" and never programmed to the ECU, you will get the same "---" as a dead old one... so you may still have an issue..
also, with that being said, and not knowing if these sensors are new/old/whatever, dead batt, or fresh, write down everything on the sensor label, paying close attention to the ID and code numbers associated with them... for each... as if they are "new" ones, and were never input using the KDS3 programming, you need that set of numbers when installed, to input into the software, by someone doing the programming of the ECU at that time...  unless ya wanna peel the tire off again, while it's in the Kaw dealer getting programmed.

what year bike? what p/n on sensor?
maybe look at this also, as if it's an older bike, the p/n may tell you it's a newer sensor, maybe, and never programmed... anyways write everything on the sensor down on paper.. and read this;

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=24016.msg300608#msg300608


old  style         21176-0107  '08 thru '13
                replaced by
   21176-0125   SENSOR,TPMS 315MHZ
                from '10 thru '13
these had the "no hex" stems, and you could cut them open and replace your battery if desired

new   style        listed as from '14 thru current model...
these had the "hex" on the stem, and were "sealed" internally.. not happy for replacement of battery without extreme p.i.t.a. effort
21176-0748   SENSOR,TPMS 315MHZ


note; those are the part numbers, you still need to write down the other data marked on the labels.. the code numbers...


best of luck
« Last Edit: May 11, 2019, 01:08:32 am by MAN OF BLUES »

30 YEARS OF KAW.....Rich R. (the other one..)  COG 5977  JUSTAMEMBAHNOW
and if you are gonna call me names... it's MR. Analdweeb if you please...