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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2017, 01:37:05 pm »
The strap will work fine. But if you want to spend hundreds of dollars for piece of mind be my guest. You’re not compressing thousands of pounds here. Only about 300. That strap I used is rated for almost 1000 lbs. You’ll only have it compressed for a few minutes anyhow. Literally thousands of people have done it this way.

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2017, 01:39:33 pm »
The strap will work fine. But if you want to spend hundreds of dollars for piece of mind be my guest. You’re not compressing thousands of pounds here. Only about 300. That strap I used is rated for almost 1000 lbs. You’ll only have it compressed for a few minutes anyhow. Literally thousands of people have done it this way.




No I understand.  It's just my luck, something wont go right and it'll fall, or slip, or release and I'll loose an eye or something silly. 


The cost is not a factor. I would rather have the tools.

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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2017, 01:45:22 pm »
Check out this guy then. Will work well and probably more stowable than the Kaw tool.
https://www.amazon.com/Race-Tech-Fork-Spring-Compressor/dp/B000GV6UIE

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2017, 01:50:20 pm »
Check out this guy then. Will work well and probably more stowable than the Kaw tool.
https://www.amazon.com/Race-Tech-Fork-Spring-Compressor/dp/B000GV6UIE




When I Was googling fork compression tools I noticed this style of tool as well.  It's a lot cheaper than the KAW tools.  Though I'm sure anything WITHOUT the KAW logo is less expensive .


I have one of these bookmarked as an alternative to the KAW version. But wasn't real sure on application or  if it was even necessary due to the KAW manual I have that shows BOTH tools being used.


Sometimes I wonder who in the HEII writes these manuals .

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2017, 01:56:10 pm »
They have well designed special tools that are used daily. That’s why they’re so expensive. They’re purpose built and designed to last. If you were a suspension shop, I wouldn’t go with the race-tech tool. It likely wouldn’t hold up to daily use in a professional environment. For the guys that changes his seals every couple years, maybe helps his buddies out with the same job? Perfect.

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2017, 01:57:16 pm »
They have well designed special tools that are used daily. That’s why they’re so expensive. They’re purpose built and designed to last. If you were a suspension shop, I wouldn’t go with the race-tech tool. It likely wouldn’t hold up to daily use in a professional environment. For the guys that changes his seals every couple years, maybe helps his buddies out with the same job? Perfect.


Defiantly agree there.  And I wouldn't hesitate to let others locally use my tools if needed.  I'd even help out.

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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2017, 02:02:44 pm »
Couple other tips, loosen the top cap while the wheel is still on the bike. Just loosen the the clamp bolt on the top, then crack the top cap loose. It’s a 24mm. If you take the wheel off first, the bottom of the work can just rotate when you try to turn the top cap.

Also, I recommend the AllBalls Racing fork seals and dust seals. The dust seals have a spring on the outside keeping the rubber in contact with the fork tube. The OEM ones do not have that spring.

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2017, 02:16:50 pm »
Couple other tips, loosen the top cap while the wheel is still on the bike. Just loosen the the clamp bolt on the top, then crack the top cap loose. It’s a 24mm. If you take the wheel off first, the bottom of the work can just rotate when you try to turn the top cap.

Also, I recommend the AllBalls Racing fork seals and dust seals. The dust seals have a spring on the outside keeping the rubber in contact with the fork tube. The OEM ones do not have that spring.


Good to know.   I always get tools +parts long before I need them.  While I wont need to do this job for probably another 5K or so, I will definitely be doing it after another long road trip in 2019.  I Want to have the gear I need before I start vs having that AH #@%HT moment of not having something I need prior to starting.


Are you aware of any recommended interval for seals and or fork oil? I can't find it anywhere in the books/manuals. I'm surprised KAW does not list it in the end user manual. It lists all kind of other stuff but I didnt see anything on the fork oil.  It just says " inspect it ".



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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2017, 02:21:19 pm »
Nope. Probably every 25k or so. Like most bikes. Seals? Just change when they leak.

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2017, 02:24:32 pm »
Nope. Probably every 25k or so. Like most bikes. Seals? Just change when they leak.


Thats kind of what I would expect.  But I wonder why the book does not address it at all as a suggestion. I Mean, heck they tell you to replace the spark plugs at 7K!

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2017, 02:31:02 pm »
That one is asinine. Especially since we use iridium plugs. I’d only replace them at the valve check. And simply because they’re already out.

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2017, 02:41:47 pm »
That one is asinine. Especially since we use iridium plugs. I’d only replace them at the valve check. And simply because they’re already out.


Yeah I plan to do the valve check at the books interval, and plugs then, not before.






Is there any practical need to remove the Fork cylinders from the forks for fluid/seal changes?




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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2017, 02:59:59 pm »
No. The cartridge can stay in. Unless you want to do a deep cleaning of everything. But that’s not really necessary. Just pull the rebound rod  out so it doesn’t get damaged while changing the seals.

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Re: Factory tools for Front Fork service. Two different styles of tool?
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2017, 04:15:39 pm »
No. The cartridge can stay in. Unless you want to do a deep cleaning of everything. But that’s not really necessary. Just pull the rebound rod  out so it doesn’t get damaged while changing the seals.


Thats what I thought.  I should be able to swish it around enough to wash out anything floating around in there if any.  Maybe if the bike was 10 years old and never had it serviced it would be removed and cleaned, but not in my case.