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Concours 14 Discussion (C14 / ZG1400 / 1400GTR) => Tires/Suspension C14 => Topic started by: Redlion61 on May 04, 2018, 06:13:34 pm

Title: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Redlion61 on May 04, 2018, 06:13:34 pm
Well, another few bills out of pocket... Had the shop polish out scratches on my forks and redo the seals, they did a very professional job.

Went through two sets of aftermarket seals, this time I forked out for original kawi parts.

I hope this time I'll have peace and quiet for a few years. This is the third time I change them... They say third one's the charm, we'll see...

 >:(
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: ghostrider990 on May 05, 2018, 01:41:29 am
Miles?? :o
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: C. Moore on May 05, 2018, 10:05:26 am
I was recently getting some spudge on my forks and was considering new seals but decided to try the "Seal Mate" first. Motion Pro makes it. Worked like a charm. I know I will eventually be doing this job but for now it's on the back burner.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Gscott on May 05, 2018, 10:21:17 am
Just had mine done on the 09 under extended warranty, just under 30,000 miles was told by service manager Kaw paid only 1.4 hours to do one fork and 1.9 hours to do both. 
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Deepsea on May 06, 2018, 04:33:24 am
Warranty work is paid by the warranty. It shouldn't matter how long it takes the dealer to perform the work, that's on them. 1.4 hours for both forks. I don't know anyone who can change a fork seal in .7 hours/49min on a C14. It's not on you to pay the difference. I'd find somewhere else to do the work.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Gscott on May 06, 2018, 11:46:14 am
Deepsea
Only one fork was leaking but dealer did both forks at no charge to me, (under extended warranty) was just saying what dealer said Kawasaki paid the dealer to do the work.
Read my post again 1.9 to do both. I do agree with you as I would like to see this done in this amount of time as well.   
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Mabupa on May 06, 2018, 12:31:19 pm
Just had mine done on the 09 under extended warranty, just under 30,000 miles was told by service manager Kaw paid only 1.4 hours to do one fork and 1.9 hours to do both.

That doesn’t seem like a lot of time to do both forks, but I guess if you have all the professional tools and experience, it’s possible to do.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Deepsea on May 06, 2018, 06:47:32 pm
Glad you got them fixed without paying.  :motonoises: :motonoises: :motonoises:
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Redlion61 on May 10, 2018, 03:07:28 pm
Miles?? :o

First change, around the 45,000 miles mark. Second, around 52,000. This one, close to 59,000. On this one, there were some pretty nasty yellow spots on the forks.  They were polished (wet and oil polish) before the seals were replaced.

Nice job. My mechanics said they had a lot of fork jobs to do this beginnning of season. I'm quite happy with the results.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Diz on May 11, 2018, 08:41:59 am
what are they throwing on the roads in Canada? I know you're not riding in the winter so that leaves road treatment out but your mechanic says fork repair was necessary for a lot of bikes. Just wondering cause of the relatively low miles in between your repairs.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Redlion61 on May 11, 2018, 03:54:44 pm
what are they throwing on the roads in Canada? I know you're not riding in the winter so that leaves road treatment out but your mechanic says fork repair was necessary for a lot of bikes. Just wondering cause of the relatively low miles in between your repairs.

Lots of fine grit, dust, and assorted crap. As for the repairs, aftermarket seals. This time, I went Kawa original.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: okrider on June 01, 2018, 05:54:41 pm
I've had bad luck with aftermarket seals as well. Only OEM for me from now on. Tried 2 sets of All Balls seals on my FZ1. Both leaked within 1000 miles. Switched to OEM, no problems in the past 5k
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: Vic on June 01, 2018, 09:55:41 pm
I've had bad luck with aftermarket seals as well. Only OEM for me from now on. Tried 2 sets of All Balls seals on my FZ1. Both leaked within 1000 miles. Switched to OEM, no problems in the past 5k

I also was let down by the All Balls brand. Went.back to stock, and all was perfect.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: gpd323 on June 15, 2018, 02:11:56 pm
I was recently getting some spudge on my forks and was considering new seals but decided to try the "Seal Mate" first. Motion Pro makes it. Worked like a charm. I know I will eventually be doing this job but for now it's on the back burner.

My left fork on my ZX14 was leaking. I used the Seal Mate tool this morning and pumping the forks the leak is gone! Thank you sir! I had never heard of this tool before.
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: rmills944 on June 21, 2018, 06:18:37 pm
I tried the seal mate and it worked- for a few months and leak came back... time to rebuild mine I guess... >:(
Title: Re: Forks... Leaks...
Post by: MAN OF BLUES on June 21, 2018, 10:15:19 pm
I tried the seal mate and it worked- for a few months and leak came back... time to rebuild mine I guess... >:(

before you do, put the bike up on the center stand, and jack up under the engine to let the forks fully extend... then look very closely at the polished tube... if there is a mini nick, or scratch, it can be "buffed out" using a strip of 200 grit Crocus cloth (Emory cloth) to "hone" the exterior of the tube, in a radial cross hatched pattern ( like you see when people are "buffing shoes" with a rag, back and forth)...
a nicked or scratched tube will leak, even after replacing seals (if they are truly damaged), so both things need to be observed.