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Offline ron203

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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2016, 07:05:37 pm »
Ok. Stay tuned. I'll get back to you when they run slick. 

From the wide discrepancies in what the individual reports say and the wide geography from where they come, seems to be some "local and personal" influences at play in the tire game.

I'll get back to you with my results. For the foreseeable future, these tires will be run in the same places as all the others, with the exception of whatever is around Missouri next summer (if they last that long).

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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2016, 12:06:20 am »
From the wide discrepancies in what the individual reports say and the wide geography from where they come, seems to be some "local and personal" influences at play in the tire game.

BINGO!

Finally... somebody gets it.

Now I'm using the generic "you", Ron -

You don't ride where I ride.

You don't ride the same way I do.

Your roads aren't made of the same materials as the roads by me.

So why do you even bother asking "what's the best" or "how many miles do you get?"

Sure, ask for feedback, learn as much as you can. But only you can decide what is best for your situation. Quit following the herd.

I love Michelins, especially the PR2's. I don't like the PR3's and 4's because of what I consider excessive siping on the front tire. To me, the siping imparts a vagueness to the feel in corners. And having ridden on PR2's, which have no siping, on 880 going up through Oakland in a deluge where cars were spinning out of my way, without having to slow down, I don't really worry much about having siping or not.

I recently installed a set of Shinko's instead of going with the Michelins because I couldn't get the PR2's and the Shinko's have less siping. Other than seeing a buildup of rubber on the rims after every ride, I'm real happy with them. But we'll see if they match the 8k to 9k I would normally get out of the Michelins.
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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2016, 07:43:21 am »
The Gt4 's are for heavier bikes, not needed for the Concours!
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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2016, 12:19:54 pm »
Do what now?  :o
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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2016, 10:28:23 am »
The Gt4 's are for heavier bikes, not needed for the Concours!

always run the pr4 gt as do many others

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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2016, 03:42:34 pm »
Having not put on a lot of miles recently, I slapped on a set of PR3's right before the Johnson City rally....
And they are holding up nicely... the 4's had just come out then, and I already had the 3's , the 2's must be old stock....
Anyway, the 3's look different than the 2 & 4 series.... they work fine for me...
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Re: Just had an interesting experience with a dealer regarding tires
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2018, 09:56:44 pm »
Okay. Time to wrap this up (from my end) as promised. The PR4 GT's I bought in August 2016 are  toast today @ 12,750~ miles on the bike; 7,200 on the PR4GT's; maybe 1,000 miles of life left if I absolutely wrung them out to "slick."

The remaining tread was about as high ABOVE the wear  bar as from the wear bar to the bottom of the sipe.   I estimate I'd have gotten 8,000  from the PR4GT's, compared to the OEM 'Stones replaced from the factory @ 5,500, which were absolutely slick (front) with a little tread left on the back one.

When I picked up a nail just off center of the center wear rib on the rear one ( first set of PR4GTs), last year and I plugged it. Why did I not ride more in two years? Two jobs, lots of travel, added a Goldwing to the stable last winter. (Put Dunlop E4's on that one in March  of this year after wearing out some E3's the PO had mounted. I like those, too.)

I looked for PR5GT's today, but Michelin's site says not available until July 2019.

I  looked at the new ones waiting to go on the bike and the depth of the new tread (compared to the old ones) is startlingly deep. I guess I really did get most of the good out of the old PR4's. After the rear  tire got the roofing nail ( plugged it in my garage) about 2,500 miles ago, I've been nursing it along. If  you're interested, I used the Slime rope and kit from Wally World one morning before heading out on a ride.  We're going to the National Rally in Texas in a couple of weeks and I didn't want to push it  any further, especially riding two up,so new tires, it is.

Price: $515 -> two tires, mounted, balanced. I'm thinking of a tire machine now...

Most of these miles were in the N.Ga and NC mountains with a limited amount in Missouri last year.  Our road "rock" here, is sharp edged granite and some lime rock up north. Usually the rock has sharp corners and is very abrasive and most of riding is summer heat in Georgia, so it's hot. I'm 280# (ATGATT) and we ride 2 UP (some). Not a hard rider, but there's some slabbing in there, too. I tried to keep the tires @ 42/42 psi, rarely going below 40#.

There it is. Your results may vary.

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