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Offline alansides

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Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:23:10 pm »
The C 14 dogbone links from bolt hole center to bolt hole center on my 2016 model measure about 6-6.25 inches

I've found out that the  ZX14 Ninja's are 7 inches long. That's about an inch longer.

My question to all the long time Connie owner/experts on here is this:

Why couldn't I swap in a set of those 7-inch dogbones to drop an inch in the Connie? I see the ZX14's on eBay for $12.

Wouldn't one expect they will be the same Kawasaki bolt holes and engineered to clear the center stand? From the pictures on eBay they look almost identical.

I'd be more than willing to drive on a plank to use the center stand to gain an inch off the tippy toe reach.

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Re: Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2017, 03:49:43 am »
there's about a 2.5 / 1 ratio on the drop vs link length. so 1" longer link is going to drop the bike about 2.5". Kiss handling goodbye. steve
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Re: Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 09:31:42 pm »
Talked to two other guys who did it and they said they didn't notice a thing.

The $12 links showed up today.

Besides being an inch longer, they look identical.

Off to the powder coaters. Gotta try this if it gets my feet on the ground.

If you gotta blame me, blame short legs!

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Re: Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 10:47:00 pm »
Are you sure that their 7"?

As Steve said, 1" at the Link should be over 2" at the rear axle... (tghinkaboutit)

NOTE:
My stock Links are about 6 1/4. (hole to hole)
My Muzzy lowering Links are about 6 5/8.  (hole to hole)

My bike is lowered (I think 1 1/2")...
Any more than that is too much.

Ride safe, Ted

NOTE: I did a little research. Apparently the 2006 - 2012 ZX-14 Dogbones are a different length than the 2013 and up.
          What year Dogbones did the guys buy that sed; They didn't notice a thing?
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Re: Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 08:12:41 pm »
I put in the ZX 14 links.

Lowered 2.4 inches

Pro's:
Can keep center stand and get on it by backing rear wheel onto a 2x4
Can keep stock kickstand by bending it out and then down.
Gets seat height down to 29" and 30 " legs/feet flat on the ground at stops.
Clears all speed bumps no problem.
Used links are on eBay for $12.00


Con's:
Might scrape slightly on curbs if you have to go over one as in a divider with the wife on the back.
Takes a little getting used to as it feels like a chopper after the stock set up.
Might, (not certain) increase bar buzz just a little.
Might affect right-hand T-Rex bar clearance as it mounts under the pegs.
The rear tire could rub inner wheel well on extremely rough RR tracks without slowing down or with the wife on back.

If your legs are 30" inseam you will appreciate the difference. Otherwise, consider the Lust 1.3" drop instead.

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Re: Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 10:04:48 pm »
Alan, I feel your pain. I lowered mine too.
You must lower the front to match the rear.
   This will keep the handling near stock.
But (if you can drop the front that much), 2.4" is too much..

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Re: Length of dog bones in the suspension - help please
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2017, 12:39:15 am »
I don't dare mess with the forks. 
I had a bike with a front end wobble once - never again.

If I change it again, it will just be to bring it back up 1.5" but so far so good.

As long as there is no effect to the shaft or tires I'm golden. Just have to watch laying it down real hard but that's what the bars are for anyway. Still beats me how anyone grinds a peg.