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Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« on: June 06, 2011, 08:20:03 pm »
Got my bike inspected today and the tires are getting close to needing replacement. 4300 miles on my Road Smarts. They want $500 installed for Pilot Road Smarts or Avon Storms. That’s everything including tax but dam when I put tires on in June of 2009 the total was $350. Have prices gone up that much? I could buy tires online for less but then they charge an EXTRA $20 per tire to install then.  :'(

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2011, 09:03:43 pm »
Just bought a new set of PR3's for 309.00 from emototires.com

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2011, 09:14:34 pm »

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2011, 09:27:29 pm »
I was going to say that PR3's were running around $325 or so lately. That would leave $175 for labor to remove wheels & tires, rebalanced and reinstall. Including the tax. If labor is $65 per hour, that would be $130 for say, 2 hours labor. Leaving about say $45 for tax. Is it really that far out of line. Maybe, maybe not! I know it takes me probably a couple of hours to change two tires on the bikes. So maybe their price might be high. But I'm really not so sure it's that outrageous!  :-\

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2011, 10:30:56 pm »
Just spoken to the CFO, and told her she is gonna owe me $300 for fitting the two tires I just order for her scoot.
as I just bought 2 new tires for $200  :)

Of course I'll take payment in kind....  >:D



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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2011, 11:22:11 pm »
Here's the break down

$64 Front Installation
$85 Rear Installation
$24 Off Bike Each

Avon Tires Storm
Front $136
Rear $186

Pilot Road Smarts
Front $134
Rear $178

If I buy the tires someplace else they will still do the work but add $20 to the cost, on or off the bike.

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2011, 11:24:17 pm »
IMO, that is backwards. I think the rear is easier and quicker to change!

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2011, 11:56:09 pm »
IMO, that is backwards. I think the rear is easier and quicker to change!

What's really backwards is the service manager said it costs a little more for the rear because the bike has bags on it... :-\

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2011, 11:58:09 pm »
IMO, that is backwards. I think the rear is easier and quicker to change!

What's really backwards is the service manager said it costs a little more for the rear because the bike has bags on it... :-\


Yeah, I think that takes about all of 30 seconds of labor to remove them. And maybe 1 minute to reinstall them!  >:D

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2011, 12:44:24 am »
I just mounted the PR3's today and took 1.5hrs from start to finish.  Not to bad consider I have the harbor freight changer and spend quite a bit of time using cardboard around the rims in order to not screw up the powder coating when using spoons.

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2011, 01:02:41 am »
This is exactly why I bought the tools and learned how to change my own tires many years ago. I think I have about $150 invested in tools, and I can't even count how many sets of tires I've changed with them over the years. It was well worth the investment.

If I were to do it over, I think I spring for a better tire changer though, like the Cycle Hill or No Mar. The Harbor Freight unit works (with some modification), but it can be a little clunky to use sometimes.

The MoJo bar and Marc Parnes balancer are lifesavers.

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2011, 01:27:29 am »
IMO, that is backwards. I think the rear is easier and quicker to change!
really  :-\


even with the fact you need to remove both mufflers?
I have not timed it but I would say a close call either way  :)

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2011, 02:49:37 am »
Anyone ever try these tires. found a place that has them for a decent price but sometimes cheap is not a good thing...

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2011, 03:04:06 am »
really  :-\   even with the fact you need to remove both mufflers?


I only remove the leftside muffler by using a specially modified socket on the right side castle nut.  Nice!   (Those Bob's will get ya!) I took a 1/2" drive 1 1/16" socket (approx 1.625" height) and ground in down to approx 1.2" in height and with a breaker bar I can get the socket on the castle nut without pulling the right side muffler. I just worked the socket down with a bench grinder (damn it'll get hot! ) Take your time!   8)

    
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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2011, 07:30:47 am »
IMO, that is backwards. I think the rear is easier and quicker to change!
really  :-\


even with the fact you need to remove both mufflers?
I have not timed it but I would say a close call either way  :)


Not on a C14. I never had to remove the can on the C14 rear. Pretty much just the caliper, abs sensor and axle bolt. Not much if anything else.  So in that case, like I said. The rear is easier. Now the C10 can be a different circumstance!  ;)
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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2011, 10:37:22 am »
Fred,
  good thing you got your tire changer from Harbor Freight ... they dont seem to be selling them anymore.   :c002:
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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2011, 10:40:51 am »
I paid around $350 last month for the tools to change my own tires and $157 for a set of Shinko's.  It wasn't too hard to do and it worked out fine because my new (to me) DR650 needs new shoes too.  That'll be another $70 worth of Shinko's (front & rear!)  :D

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2011, 02:47:54 pm »
Anyone ever try these tires. found a place that has them for a decent price but sometimes cheap is not a good thing...

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I've been testing these on my ZRX, they are holding up well so far, I have two rallies/about 2k of hard riding on them.

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Re: Local Dealers Must Be Nuts (Tires)
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 08:48:41 pm »



I haven't seen a set of Very-Nears (verniers) since I was in college 40 years ago.

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