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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2019, 12:15:46 am »
Come to think about it, you can tell I spend much more time in the vertical position than at extreme angles.  I had about 13K on them when I pulled them off so I think I got my money's worth.  I rode in a moderate rain session today and the Road 5s performed just fine.  I can't really tell the difference between the R4GTs and the R5s since I am more conservative in the wet for some unknown reason...they both seem to handle the water well both straight and with some leaning.  We still had some sand in the road crowns from our Feb. snows so I am glad for the rain to wash most of it off the road surfaces. 

Now though, I will need to wash the bike...
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2019, 01:16:11 am »
I want to know how you got road grime INSIDE the tire?!?     :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :great:
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2019, 11:10:17 pm »
I've been looking for tires myself.  One thing I've noticed...the tread patterns seem to change over the years...but keep repeating from one brand to another.  It makes me wonder if they really know what tread pattern will give the buyer the most traction and long life.  If the PR4 was so great...why did Michelin ditch it completely and go to the Road 5? 

As an example, the Continental Conti-Motion has this tread pattern with the tread pattern that .



It's similar to that of the Pirelli Angel GT, Michelin PR4, PR2, Metzeler Roadtec 01, Bridgestone T30 EV and the Pirelli Angel.  The difference seems to be the number of tread cuts.

But then you get a change from that type of tread design to something different.  Like the Continental Road Attack 3.



Which is very similar to the Metzeler Roadtec Z6...an older tire.  And the Continental Road Attack 3 is a top rated tire.


Do the manufacturers just rotate through the designs that have been used before, in the hopes of having something new?  Is this like going to the local fishing store and deciding which fishing lure to get based on what looks good to you?  And the design has no relation to how well it actually performs...whether on the road or in the lake?

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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2019, 11:23:12 pm »
Ijust put on a RS3 on the back. We'll see how that goes.
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2019, 04:31:59 pm »
MtnRider,
If only, lol. That was from the trauma of the Bandsaw cutting and then pulling it out of the garbage can to take photos of it.  I am still cleaning out little bits of rubber and cord from the tool and off the garage floor...
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #30 on: April 07, 2019, 04:37:04 pm »
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that ever since I put plugs into the old tire my front TPMS sensor is acting jinky.  I get a good reading, then it goes blank for maybe 2-3 minutes, then it is back, then blank.
I suspect that when I put the 2d or 3d (final) plug in with glue maybe some of the glue got stuck to the TPMS assembly and is causing it to intermittently lose its mind.  It could also have been the previous plugs (that started leaking) banging around inside the tire. Just not sure, but I need to pull the tire and TPMS and put a new battery in it and check it out thoroughly to see if I can get it working correctly.
The first few times I noticed it was concerning.  To see my rear reading correctly and the front showing two flat lines, and no error or warning...
Always something fun to work on, that is for sure.
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2019, 01:41:53 am »
I just bought a set of Road 5s this month online. http://forum.cog-online.org/tires-suspension-c14/michelin-r5-review/


i have a set of road 5s on my aprilia futura and they are just plain exciting! they are amazing in the rain and have tons of grip, when i burn through my stock tires, i plan on getting the pr5 gts when they come out! you cant go wring with michellens! you get what you pay for from those tires!

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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2019, 06:02:55 pm »
I am running the PR5's on my C-14. Love them, sportiest of all the PR's 2,3, 4 and 4GT's.  :)

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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2019, 09:12:09 am »
Road 5 GTs now available in the UK and most of the rest of Europe.
Look at the following, scroll down, and note the (GT) after some sizes, including the late model C10 front, both C14 sizes and the C14 55 series rear.
https://www.michelin.co.uk/motorbike/tyres/michelin-road-5

From what I see here the GTs are not yet available in the USA though.
https://motorcycle.michelinman.com/motorbike/tyres/michelin-road-5

Y'all will just have to wait some more.  :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2019, 03:14:37 pm »
Boomer,
Thanks for this link and info.  So, what is it in their secret sauce that differentiates the GT from a non GT tire?  The specs they show are identical for a given tire size like 190, 50, 17, 73, W.  I suspect that the side walls are made to handle the greater weight of bigger sport touring bikes like the C14, but it sure is hard to tell it from their info.
I have been running Road 5s now for about 7K and am very happy with their performance in dry, wet, and everywhere in between conditions.  I have however noticed that my front is wearing more quickly than the rear, which for me is unusual. 

Just have to stay patient to see when M brings it across the pond to US riders...
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2019, 12:04:23 am »
Spooning on my 3rd set as we speak. Last set was Hendo NV to Kamiah ID for the Bun Cooler then Hendo NV to Wiliiamsport PA for the Nat and back (roughly 9k miles) and it looks like there are still another 2k left. But getting ready to set out for the devils cut SW M&G and prudence dictates. For me great skins.
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2019, 02:14:21 am »
I ordered the Road 5's and then promptly returned them and got the PR4 GT's after talking to a Michelin rep. I assume they know more about tires than I do. Basically he said the Road 5's wouldn't handle the weight. The PR4 GT's are fantastic. If you go to the Michelin website and but in your bike information it doesn't list the Road 5's as an option. But will they work? Sure sounds like it.

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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2019, 10:21:53 pm »
I ordered the Road 5's and then promptly returned them and got the PR4 GT's after talking to a Michelin rep. I assume they know more about tires than I do. Basically he said the Road 5's wouldn't handle the weight. The PR4 GT's are fantastic.

The load rating is the same on most C14 size tires. If I'm not mistaken it's 840 lbs across the board, but I'd have to look. Something about some tires being more flexible & some stiff. Some bikes have stiff frames & some have flexible frames so that determines the tire type. 
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2019, 10:56:47 pm »
I ordered the Road 5's and then promptly returned them and got the PR4 GT's after talking to a Michelin rep. I assume they know more about tires than I do. Basically he said the Road 5's wouldn't handle the weight. The PR4 GT's are fantastic.

The load rating is the same on most C14 size tires. If I'm not mistaken it's 840 lbs across the board, but I'd have to look. Something about some tires being more flexible & some stiff. Some bikes have stiff frames & some have flexible frames so that determines the tire type.
Cliff is right and is pretty much exactly what the Michelin Rep presenting at the PA National was saying. I interpreted it as stiff frame/stiff suspension on sports bikes and soft frame/suspension on a sport touring bike.  He said specifically it was not about the load rating of the tire. It was more about you want the tire to counteract the frame/suspension. Stiff and stiff makes for a hard non compliant ride, soft soft makes for a mushy ride. You want the tire to be the opposite of the frame/suspension. He also said wait for the PR 5GT for our c-14’s because he doesn’t want to sell a tire that doesn’t work properly.

I thought it was an excellent presentation. Why no dot on their tires that marks the heavy part?  Any of their tires that have a heavy spot are shredded as defective.
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2019, 08:17:39 pm »
ok, question for the group here. I've been reading and have always read that the C14 needs to GT version. I just checked the Michelin website and compared the PR4, PR4 GT, and Road 5 and they all have the same load index and speed index ratings. The 190/50 series have a 73 Load index (805 pounds) in all three tires, the 190/55 series are a 75 Load index (853 pounds).

So what am I missing? What is the real difference with the GT version if the load and speed ratings are identical?

The other data point is when you search Michelin's website for GTR1400 tires they only show the PR2 and the PR4GT. So clearly they do not recommend the PR4 or R5. But why?
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Re: Michelin Road 5 GT
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2019, 09:50:31 pm »
Read my last post. It’s right from the Michelin Reps presentation. The side walls are stiffer on the GT. It answers your question, no?
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