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Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« on: July 20, 2017, 05:44:55 pm »
Took the new 2016 to work this morning, left home an hour early just to ride the back roads to the office.
All was good.
Headed back home for lunch and TPMS warning came on, 24 lbs in the rear. Made it to the nearest service station and sure enough, a big fat roofing nail about 3/4 the way up the thread, stuck into the thinnest part of one of the grooves.
Air'd up and made it home.
Not a fan of plugging M/C tires, so I'm now hunting for a replacement.
I would prefer to keep a matched front/rear set, so with that being said is there a suitable Battlax derivative other than the factory 021R that is usable on the C-14?

Thanks
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 05:56:01 pm »
For the money, the Bridgestone T-30GT EVO is hard to beat. 
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2017, 06:24:24 pm »
Reid53,
Thanks for your input.
I was considering those and the BT-023.
Reviews I've been reading say the BT gets a little better mileage with similar wet/dry grip.

As yet, I'm still undecided, but will keep looking.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2017, 06:46:54 pm »
Congratulations on the new C14!  I also have the 2016 model, mine has over 14K miles on it now.  Ditch those Bridgestones and get a set of Pirelli Angel GT's instead, they significantly improve handling on this bike.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2017, 09:06:25 pm »
Personally, I would patch that summich and keep riding unless I was going on a hard core touring ride or something similar.


Tooling around town, going to work,  patch it and keep going.




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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2017, 10:11:48 pm »
The best thing I ever had was that tire getting a nail in it. Those are original stock tires are useless.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2017, 11:19:59 am »
I put over 5,000 miles on a plugged rear tire. Zero issues
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2017, 12:04:21 pm »
Personally, I would patch that summich and keep riding unless I was going on a hard core touring ride or something similar.


Tooling around town, going to work,  patch it and keep going.

What JTX said. Motorcycle tires are expensive. Plug it and put some miles on the bike. You will be paying for a new set soon enough. No need to rush it.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2017, 02:57:05 pm »
Thanks for all of the replies.
I'm going to have a shop take a look at the tire and see if a plug is possible.
Frankly, because I frequently ride two up w/gear I need to have peace of mind that if the tire is plugged that I won't be waiting for something bad to happen.


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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2017, 03:04:25 pm »
I agree. Plug it and ride it. After you put a few thousand miles on the crappy BT-021s, you'll really appreciate good tires when you upgrade them.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2017, 03:31:07 pm »
I hear you buzz.    If you want the piece of mind, replace it.     Ive run plugs before, but not everyone has the same risk considerations.   

Other option is to replace both tires with a better set than stock.    Wanna bring them to my place and use the tire changer?
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2017, 04:55:10 pm »
I put over 5,000 miles on a plugged rear tire. Zero issues
My bike was basically brand new when I ran over a nail. The shop put a plug in it and the shop owner said: "remember it's temporary." WHen he left I asked the mechanic when I should replace the tire and he said: "when it wears out." Never had a problem. Not saying you should do that just saying I never had a problem.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2017, 10:11:27 pm »
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2017, 10:54:36 am »
Dangerous situation, you need to remove that tire immediately and send it to me, and I will make sure it's disposed of properly. :))

No seriously though I have plugged many a tire and ridden them until the end of the tire life.  The worst that has happened was about a 2 to 3 PSI loss per day at the end of the tire life when the tread got real thin. And this was without the benefit of TPMS.

Mostly rear tires but I have done the front a couple times they do make different type of mushroom plugs that may or may not be better,  but I have always just used the traditional gummy worms,  plenty of glue, and I've had no problems.

If you do decide to plug it just keep an eye on it the first day or two.

I ended up saving all my tire money and buying a new 2017 Concours. :motonoises:
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 05:50:22 pm »
I plugged a PR2 and it worked fine until I replaced it after thousands of miles. I plugged a PR3 when it was fairly new. It picked up a piece of copper wire in MT. I found the Harley dealer did not want my business but gave me air. Got directions to a metric dealer and they replaced the tire.

The wire was so thin putting a plug in it would have been a huge pain in the neck. I don't understand how the wire could find it's way into a tire enough to make it go flat. The wire wasn't stiff at all.  >:(

So I had the tire replaced and made it home with out further delay.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2017, 06:10:48 pm »
Avon has a warranty for that.  I used it on my last set.  Got a nail after only 300 miles.  Even though I bought them online and mounted them myself they still honored the warranty.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2017, 11:49:26 pm »
Just an FYI ,  had a new rear tire mounted today.
I had ordered a BT-023 from Rocky Mtn sports ( $ 138 delivered) just in case an attempt at plugging didn't work. Glad I did.
Once the BIG FAT nail was pulled out we saw a ragged, elongated hole in the tire groove. The hail head itself had bent back and started to cut another deep slice into the tread.
It might just be me, but I wouldn't have felt comfortable or safe riding on that tire.
So all's good, I can get back to enjoying this new ride!!!
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2017, 02:14:04 pm »
Sounds like a solid move.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2017, 02:32:47 pm »
You can't always plug them.  Usually when I pick up a nail or screw it is straight in, but I did pick one up once at a weird angle and nearer to the edge of the tire. (Must have picked it up in a twistie), and ended up replacing the tire.  Fortunately it was over half worn.
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Re: Nail in the tire, only 700 miles on the bike
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2017, 04:42:22 pm »
Just picked up a nail in the rear tire after ~900 miles in the Angel GT A-specs. Was set to leave in the morning for the NW St Helens ride only to get about 1/4 mile from the neighborhood after the TPMS kicked in.  >:(  :'(

Finished patching, was so close to attending! One of these years...   :motonoises:

Anyway, here's the culprit
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4410/35580227973_468fb506ff_b.jpg

and the low pressure warnings
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4393/36388162485_9a1d312ffc_b.jpg
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4399/36388168135_dc6e09a669_b.jpg

And the nail size for comparison
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4337/35991779820_2eeb198e13_z.jpg

Hoping the 2 plugs work! First one wasn't quite set in, so inserted a 2nd plug. Pumped the rear and drove around neighborhood for a quick check. Will let the glue set for another hour before going on a good test ride.
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