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Offline Lonestar Cruzer

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17" conversion
« on: November 17, 2016, 10:51:38 pm »
I've looked on the tech page, I found a ZX600D 93 Wheel assy for just under $100 for the front. I'm not thrilled about having to take the rear to a machinist for the rear, so that's going to get put off as long as possible. I'm having problems finding the ZX600D "Speedometer gear drive", which is the only thing holding me back from pulling the trigger. Does it go by another name?

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2016, 10:54:18 pm »
Mitchell,
The machining of the mean streak rear wheel is pretty straight forward. Don't get all worked up over it. BTDT.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2016, 11:25:19 pm »
Cost $175 to have the rear wheel machine work done about a month ago.  I plead ignorant as to that being reasonable or not.  Nothing is cheap anymore.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2016, 12:12:19 am »
I think I recall that someone moved the rear brake over. (Instead of machining the rear wheel).
(But everyone knows my memory sux)

See if you can find that mod.

PS: Is this the part you need?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/88-93-1988-1993-KAWASAKI-ZX600-SPEEDOMETER-DRIVE-ZZRM2-/301374331259?hash=item462b4f597b:g:MeQAAOSwF1dUUpDJ&vxp=mtr

I typed in ZX600 93 speedometer
Found a lot of the drives...

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2016, 01:29:50 am »
Thanks ted, i think i was worried it had to be a 90-93 like the wheel.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2016, 01:54:51 am »
It takes me about 30 minutes to machine a Meanstreak. I am in Houston.  Charge you $50.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2016, 01:57:31 am »
Sounds like a heck of a deal!!

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2016, 04:11:03 pm »
Might as well take PBfoot up on that offer since a machinist who hasn't done it before will be looking for $200+

Even with shipping, you won't find cheaper.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2016, 06:11:24 pm »
Gotta find me a mean streak wheel now. Houston is only like 2 and a half hours down 45 for me too. Guess I'm putting off rubbers until I get the 17" conversion done for sure now. Thanks a lot guys, you make owning a C10 a lot less intimidating with the availability of parts dwindling.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2016, 07:30:33 pm »
Oh heck yeah!  Beat a path to Houston before he changes his mind!!   :great: :great: :great:

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2016, 07:58:58 pm »
$300 for a ready to roll rim, or $99 for a rim with a decent bend in the lip. I have a heat gun and a dead blow non-marring hammer, is it worth trying to fix http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Y7EAAOSwB09YG8ba/s-l500.jpg?

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2016, 08:24:16 pm »
I doubt a heat gun will get the metal hot enough, will it?  I'd say torch.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2016, 08:49:57 pm »
You're right, it looks like 1292F is the temp I need to aim for, and 1112F is all my heat gun will impart into it. I suppose a butane torch would suffice.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2016, 10:01:38 pm »
Found a rear mean machine w/ brake rotor for $101.25! Should be here in 10 days.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2016, 10:22:42 pm »
rotor won't do you so much good.  you need a front rotor from a 1500 Nomad.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2016, 11:40:11 pm »
rotor won't do you so much good.  you need a front rotor from a 1500 Nomad.

Heres a link to Murphs for the correct rotor
http://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?products_id=415
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2016, 12:53:10 am »
I think I recall that someone moved the rear brake over. (Instead of machining the rear wheel).
(But everyone knows my memory sux)

See if you can find that mod.

PS: Is this the part you need?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/88-93-1988-1993-KAWASAKI-ZX600-SPEEDOMETER-DRIVE-ZZRM2-/301374331259?hash=item462b4f597b:g:MeQAAOSwF1dUUpDJ&vxp=mtr

I typed in ZX600 93 speedometer
Found a lot of the drives...

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I actually did the 17" rear Mean Streak wheel, and I used everything from the Mean Streak... and here's what I did!
I used my Sherline mini mill to take off just enough of the outer face of the caliper bracket, to fit the width of the swingarm. It was that simple, and I gained a two pot caliper, and a larger rotor... now the rest of the story.
The Mean Streak caliper will hit the right bag if you do not 'clock' it behind the rotor at about 8:30-8:45 on the 'clock'. I took the extra caliper stay I purchased on eBay for insurance, and cut the ends off and welded a longer piece of 1/2" stainless sch.40 pipe in place of the solid bar that was original, lengthening it to move the caliper into position behind the rotor. I also cut the inner ear off the caliper side of the stay bracket, to clear the rotor,  IIRC. It wasn't hard, and gave me the choice of returning everything to stock if needed. I really didn't want to weld a tube to the top of the swingarm to bolt the caliper bracket from the Mean Streak to it, as some have done on this forum, and my setup looks good, has a near 90deg. angle between the caliper and the stay, so all is well!  I have put around 7500 miles on the setup, with a Conti Motion set of tires, and the rear is a 170/60-17, fits well and rides real nice. The tire lowered the rear by about 1/2" or more, and I like the way it handles. Hope this helps!
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2016, 01:01:47 am »
said in the tech page that the mean streak rotor can me machined down (280mm I think) and work

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2016, 03:06:42 am »
said in the tech page that the mean streak rotor can me machined down (280mm I think) and work

you are correct. you might consider which would be less costly.  either way, you definitely need a 280.  I have not done what yamahawk did, but had seen his posts on it.  seems a viable option.

also, to counter the slightly shorter height due to the wheel replacement, consider getting a used C14 shock to put on the rear.  it or a ZZR1200 have worked for others.  i used the ZZR on mine, but it is a bit soft for aggressive riding and two up.  it's ok, but the C14 would probably be a better bet based on my experience.

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2016, 07:22:37 am »
It takes me about 30 minutes to machine a Meanstreak. I am in Houston.  Charge you $50.

Pbfoot did mine, and turned it around crazy quick.  It would've been a deal at at twice the price.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2016, 12:27:03 pm »
said in the tech page that the mean streak rotor can me machined down (280mm I think) and work


YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS..   

http://forum.cog-online.org/index.php?topic=66511.msg544216#msg544216

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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2016, 02:18:05 pm »
PM me if you decide to do the machining on the wheel. I don't usually turn down rotors but I guess I could cnc mill it.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2016, 02:36:20 pm »
PM me if you decide to do the machining on the wheel. I don't usually turn down rotors but I guess I could cnc mill it.

For one to do the 17" conversion as I described is very easy, but it requires some manual labor to shorten the spacer and grind off the aluminum plate, so one must be careful not to over do it. For what you charge for the machine work, would make it a no brainier for me, and I would even bring the beer.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2016, 02:42:44 pm »
PM me if you decide to do the machining on the wheel. I don't usually turn down rotors but I guess I could cnc mill it.

For one to do the 17" conversion as I described is very easy, but it requires some manual labor to shorten the spacer and grind off the aluminum plate, so one must be careful not to over do it. For what you charge for the machine work, would make it a no brainier for me, and I would even bring the beer.
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Re: 17" conversion
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2016, 02:46:38 pm »
@ SportRider: I have access to a brake lathe to machine the rotor down to 280mm. As far as the suspension goes, wouldn't the back be sitting higher (depending on tire size) because I'm going up 1" in the rear and down 1" in the front?

@ TheDude: Appreciate you giving Pbfoot an endorsement. I look forward to meeting my first fellow CoG member.

@ JDM: TY for linking the bracket modification post. I feel like I'd be insulting Pbfoot if I turned down his generous offer now though. I also don't want to mess around with brake mounting parts too much, I want to upgrade the calipers in the future.

@PBFoot: I have access to a lathe big enough to do the brake rotors, but not a wheel. I wouldn't have expected you to do both. I will send you a message as soon as I have the wheel, and get to personally inspect it for damage, then we can figure out a date/time.